Okay so this christmas i'm asking for a new graphics card, and i'm really considering getting the EVGA 9800GT Akimbo 512mb. What I want to know is,1. What kind of performance could i get out of this card? 2. How far would i be able to overclock it?here are my specs- HP a1600n desktop computer, 2GB 667Mhz RAM, AMD Athlon 64X2 3800+ processor (2.0Ghz), and a Mad Dog 430 Watt power supply with 2 +12v rails, each at 15A. so mainly i'm worried about my processor bottlenecking and whether or not my power supply would be able to handle the card and/or how much it would overclock.two questions (GPU, PSU)
[QUOTE=''joe11king'']Okay so this christmas i'm asking for a new graphics card, and i'm really considering getting the EVGA 9800GT Akimbo 512mb. What I want to know is,1. What kind of performance could i get out of this card? 2. How far would i be able to overclock it?here are my specs- HP a1600n desktop computer, 2GB 667Mhz RAM, AMD Athlon 64X2 3800+ processor (2.0Ghz), and a Mad Dog 430 Watt power supply with 2 +12v rails, each at 15A. so mainly i'm worried about my processor bottlenecking and whether or not my power supply would be able to handle the card and/or how much it would overclock.[/QUOTE]
I think 15 amps on the 12 volts might be a little low, almost at the edge for the card so i'd be careful OCing the card. as far as your question, well for that you need to do your homework and look up on google ''9800GT review'' or ''9800GT benchmarks'' and read some graphs. I will tell you that it is a pretty decent card (for what i've heard) although If you were willing to spend a little extra cash, I would recommend the HD4850two questions (GPU, PSU)
well don't the ATI cards have a little bit steeper power requirements? anyways, keep in mind that it has 2 12 volt rails. i know you can't just say 15+15=30 amps but it would be somewhere around there, right? the thing i keep telling myself is, is that those power requirements are for a fully loaded system. i only have 1 hard drive, and my processor doesn't exactly suck a lot of power so... would i be able to get away with it, all things considered?
I have a similar specs as your pc goes. Like AMD athlon 64x2 3800+ (2.0) I have 2 gigs of ddr ram not sure what hurts they are running at but I do have a 500wat psu that can run a 8800 gt overclock 256mb and with this card it has preform for me quite well and far as the 9800gt gpu goes I'm not sure how the 2 would compare to each other cause you can't go by like mine is a 8800 and that is a 9800 cause you would think the 9800 should be better but I'm not sure if that is true or not.
You should look up that card a read all about it cause that is what I did for months before settleing on the card that I have now.
yes, thats actually exactly how i am. i've been reading up on this for quite a while. the specs of the 9800 are exactly the same, except the manufacture process is smaller. so it generates less heat and uses less power. what resolution/ settings can you run crysis on and what FPS do you get?
bump?
You'll need to ask this question to some one else cause I don't have crysis. From what I have heard is that Crysis is a tough game to get to play smoothly on some pcs. I don't care for that game. I use to play FPS games on my pc but scence I have a 32'' LCD HDT/ monitor and it isn't on a desk this monitor is like 3' away and I'm having to use a moble desk that has wheels and I have a wireless key board and mouse and so I just stick with RTS games they are easyer to play with with a settup like this.
Just pickup a psu with 500+ watts with 26+ Amps on the 12v rail and is 70%+ efficiency rating. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276573%26Sku=ULT-LSP650 - 650 watt psu $50
Corsair VX-450W
An x2 3800 will probably bottleneck that GPU.
Bottleneck only occurs when the cpu is below the min requirements for the card and when a program'game wants a better cpu.
That CPU is below recommended CPU requirements for new games, it will bottleneck newer games. Its an old cpu, and wasn't that great even when it was new.
Well that is what you think. I beg to differ cause my pc as I said before I tink is 2+ years old and has done just fine for me and the only game that tends to slow down when I goto play on it is SC and I think the gpu is fine it is just that the pc can't handle this game.
Some day I plan to build my own pc but until then I have to stick with what I have.
I have a 500 watt psu with an 8800gt overclocked 256mb and it plays all current games that I have except for SC that is and even at low settings it still stutters.
Aside from that game C%26C Red Alert 3 and the rest of the the C%26C games I can play all on the max setting well not the max but really all but the rez I put on max.
Well, its not what I think. I had that same cpu/gpu combo. It bottlenecks. Just because games run at good frame rates doesn't mean there isn't a bottleneck. You'd get even better frames with a better CPU.
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Intalling Display Drivers
I have installed display drivers before, but I never uninstalled my previous one before installing the new one. But If I uninstall my current driver, wouldn't that stop my display adapter from working properly? I just don't get how it works to uninstall my current driver before installing the new one, because that would leave my display adapter with no driver at all. Can someone please point me in the right direction here. Oh I am also running SLI. Intalling Display Drivers
Just uninstall your driver from add/remove programs, and reboot. Windows will then use the default VGA driver. Then install your new driver.Intalling Display Drivers
Okay thanks I'll try that.
One more question before I install this new driver. The driver I am wanting to install is the Nvidia 178.24 driver, but my gpu isn't listed on the supported gpu list. I figured it was just because I have a mobile gpu.Would it be a wise decision to install that driver anyway? *Edit, nope it won't install. During the installation it say that no drivers were found that were compatable with my hardware. Oh well guess I'll just keep my old driver.
Just uninstall your driver from add/remove programs, and reboot. Windows will then use the default VGA driver. Then install your new driver.Intalling Display Drivers
Okay thanks I'll try that.
One more question before I install this new driver. The driver I am wanting to install is the Nvidia 178.24 driver, but my gpu isn't listed on the supported gpu list. I figured it was just because I have a mobile gpu.Would it be a wise decision to install that driver anyway? *Edit, nope it won't install. During the installation it say that no drivers were found that were compatable with my hardware. Oh well guess I'll just keep my old driver.
Last Q about if this stuff will work
OK just wondering if all this stuff will work together? i think it does just wanna make sure :) thanks1. XFX MG61MI7059 nForce 610i/GeForce 7050 1333Mhz FSB Intel Socket LGA 775 DDR2 Micro ATX SLI Ready Motherboard $ 67
2. Intel Pentium E2200 Allendale 2.2GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor $70
3. CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory $55
4. Aspire 600W DarkSide Alum Black PSU - Blue Sleeves $90 Amazon.com
5. APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-SS blackp Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $60
6. Western Digital Caviar GP WD5000AACS 500GB 5400 to 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive %26ndash; OEM
7. Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm ''Core Contact Freezer'' CPU Cooler $40
8. LITE-ON Black 52X CD-ROM SATA CD-ROM Drive Model LTN-52S1S-10 $14
9. LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 $18
10. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD %26ndash; OEM $100
Last Q about if this stuff will work
Looks good, but do you have a graphics card already?Last Q about if this stuff will work
Question: 1: No graphics card? 2: Looks like an old processor... Probably for just $20 more you could upgrade to something a lot better. 3: Never heard of that Power supply brand. I would go for Corsair, Antec, Thermaltake, or Coolermaster. 4: Last bit of advice, you look for the cheapest deal and get unknown brand parts and you will have a lot more hassle trying to get it all sorted out with poor quality and performance versus just paying an extra $20 here or there.
http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/motherboards/6series/~/ecms.aspx/XFXCPUCompatibilityList-Intel.pdf. For some reason your cpu isn't listed as compatible. I'm not sure that the ram is compatible also.
You need to rethink that build.
I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest[/QUOTE]I don't rely on Tom's too much, but this might help: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-graphics-overclocking,2082.html
so you think that will work if i just change my mobo and processor with what he says and get diff PSU?
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest[/QUOTE]
Go to this site and customize a build for yourself for your budget... www.ecollegepc.com Won't be easy to get what you want for under $700. I've bought three custom builds from them and absolutely no complaints.
how about this???1. GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard %26ndash; Retail $100
2. Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 %26ndash; Retail $83
3. PNY XLR8 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model MD2048KD2-800-X4 %26ndash; Retail $40
4. CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX 520W ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply %26ndash; Retail $140
5. APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-SS blackp Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $60
6. Western Digital Caviar GP WD5000AACS 500GB 5400 to 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive %26ndash; OEM
7. Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm ''Core Contact Freezer'' CPU Cooler $40
8. LITE-ON Black 52X CD-ROM SATA CD-ROM Drive Model LTN-52S1S-10 $14
9. LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 $18
10. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD %26ndash; OEM $100
11. XFX PVT96OSDFH GeForce 9600 GSO 768MB 192-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
How will that work??Thanks:)
Looks good !!! Just be sure that your heatsink going to fit your case. Cheers
How do i figur that out or can u recomend a good heatsink for about the same price??
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']How do i figur that out or can u recomend a good heatsink for about the same price??[/QUOTE]This is good for the money and a rather easy install (Compared to others): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134this works
2. Intel Pentium E2200 Allendale 2.2GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor $70
3. CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory $55
4. Aspire 600W DarkSide Alum Black PSU - Blue Sleeves $90 Amazon.com
5. APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-SS blackp Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $60
6. Western Digital Caviar GP WD5000AACS 500GB 5400 to 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive %26ndash; OEM
7. Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm ''Core Contact Freezer'' CPU Cooler $40
8. LITE-ON Black 52X CD-ROM SATA CD-ROM Drive Model LTN-52S1S-10 $14
9. LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 $18
10. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD %26ndash; OEM $100
Last Q about if this stuff will work
Looks good, but do you have a graphics card already?Last Q about if this stuff will work
Question: 1: No graphics card? 2: Looks like an old processor... Probably for just $20 more you could upgrade to something a lot better. 3: Never heard of that Power supply brand. I would go for Corsair, Antec, Thermaltake, or Coolermaster. 4: Last bit of advice, you look for the cheapest deal and get unknown brand parts and you will have a lot more hassle trying to get it all sorted out with poor quality and performance versus just paying an extra $20 here or there.
http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/motherboards/6series/~/ecms.aspx/XFXCPUCompatibilityList-Intel.pdf. For some reason your cpu isn't listed as compatible. I'm not sure that the ram is compatible also.
You need to rethink that build.
I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest[/QUOTE]I don't rely on Tom's too much, but this might help: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-graphics-overclocking,2082.html
so you think that will work if i just change my mobo and processor with what he says and get diff PSU?
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest[/QUOTE]
Go to this site and customize a build for yourself for your budget... www.ecollegepc.com Won't be easy to get what you want for under $700. I've bought three custom builds from them and absolutely no complaints.
how about this???1. GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard %26ndash; Retail $100
2. Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 %26ndash; Retail $83
3. PNY XLR8 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model MD2048KD2-800-X4 %26ndash; Retail $40
4. CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX 520W ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply %26ndash; Retail $140
5. APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-SS blackp Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $60
6. Western Digital Caviar GP WD5000AACS 500GB 5400 to 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive %26ndash; OEM
7. Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm ''Core Contact Freezer'' CPU Cooler $40
8. LITE-ON Black 52X CD-ROM SATA CD-ROM Drive Model LTN-52S1S-10 $14
9. LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 $18
10. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD %26ndash; OEM $100
11. XFX PVT96OSDFH GeForce 9600 GSO 768MB 192-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
How will that work??Thanks:)
Looks good !!! Just be sure that your heatsink going to fit your case. Cheers
How do i figur that out or can u recomend a good heatsink for about the same price??
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']How do i figur that out or can u recomend a good heatsink for about the same price??[/QUOTE]This is good for the money and a rather easy install (Compared to others): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
How is this gaming pc??
Alright so this is my first time building a pc and i'de like to know if this is a good rig if i want to play games like Battlefield 2, cs:source, Bioshock, mabye crysis, and some other multiplayer fps's with high frame rate and no lag issues.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103272CPUhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130370Video Cardhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136283Hard Drivehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184RAMI already have a 500w power supply so the only thing i am missing is a Motherboard. Could anyone possibly recommend me a good mobo that would be suitable for the rest of my rig but relatively cheap?How is this gaming pc??
500 Watt are you serious? What brand and model of PSU you got? It better be a brilliant one!How is this gaming pc??
All I got to say is that most likely your 500 watt psu wont power that card. Average Amp ratings for good 500's is low 30's. The better 500's do max of 40 some Amps. unless you have a $100+ 500 watt psu, you need to get a new psu 600 watts or better with 40's or better Amp 12v rating.
I run my GTX 260 on a 650 watt Corsair TX 650. Great PSU, plenty of amps.
[QUOTE=''jmnderson69'']I run my GTX 260 on a 650 watt Corsair TX 650. Great PSU, plenty of amps.[/QUOTE]
Alright so assuming i got that PSU or one similar, what would be a good motherboard to purchase that would be adequate with the rest of my system
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128081
Alrighty thanks a lot
500 Watt are you serious? What brand and model of PSU you got? It better be a brilliant one!How is this gaming pc??
All I got to say is that most likely your 500 watt psu wont power that card. Average Amp ratings for good 500's is low 30's. The better 500's do max of 40 some Amps. unless you have a $100+ 500 watt psu, you need to get a new psu 600 watts or better with 40's or better Amp 12v rating.
I run my GTX 260 on a 650 watt Corsair TX 650. Great PSU, plenty of amps.
[QUOTE=''jmnderson69'']I run my GTX 260 on a 650 watt Corsair TX 650. Great PSU, plenty of amps.[/QUOTE]
Alright so assuming i got that PSU or one similar, what would be a good motherboard to purchase that would be adequate with the rest of my system
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128081
Alrighty thanks a lot
is it worth getting a dedicated sound card
is it worth it if its goan be pci and not pci-e as i noly have one pci-e slot and thats used by my gpuis it worth getting a dedicated sound card
Definitely. Especially if you have a decent set of speakers. Going from onboard sound to my sound card was like night and day. Everything was so much clearer and crisp. Totally worth it.is it worth getting a dedicated sound card
wot would u recommend then
What's your budget? And what speakers do you have?
Going from a realtech88xx to a x-fi insnt that big upgrade, but to an good card migth be a diffrence.
I can tell you that a sub $50 card will not make a diffrence, but a good $100 card will.
So it's about what card you get, not that it's just a dedicated sound card, cos there a bunch of lame cards out.
...But using computer speakers with a expencive soundcard is a waste, even the best computerspeakers is weak and sound bad when compared to a decent Amp and speakers.
Depends on the card.
got 2.1 sony srs d211 surprisingly gd value bass is decent but i see your arguement and it might be better for me to get better speakers first any recomendations i paln on getting them and maybe the sound card all on boxing day in sales
Yes it should make a diference.
I have a surround sound speakers a z-5450 Logitech speakers and what a difference it maks imo.
I used to have a 100 + sound card and it only last about 1 month or so before it died on me but I whent out and bought a 30.00 card and it has lasted longer then that card like 5 or more months and I'm not joking. I'm not sure if I had a bad card to begin with or what but this older cheaper one works just fine for me.
I used to have a soundblaster extremegameing sound card and I love that card a lot but that is the one that lasted like a month or so.
Now I have a sound blaster se and that card has gone farther then the other one. So I'm not sure how to explain that one.
get sumthing soundblaster i recommend the xi-fi gamer edition.
[QUOTE=''humpas''] is it worth it if its goan be pci and not pci-e as i noly have one pci-e slot and thats used by my gpu[/QUOTE]No it is not worth it. Invest your money into better speakers which makes the difference of course you could buy expensive speakers and sound cards that cost more than my entire Rig. It isn't worth it in my opinion.
ok im gona dis regard the last comment as it seems to be the minority and how about this for sound card the Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer as for speakers im not to sure im just gona buy it all at once to make it simpler
[QUOTE=''humpas'']ok im gona dis regard the last comment as it seems to be the minority and how about this for sound card the Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer as for speakers im not to sure im just gona buy it all at once to make it simpler[/QUOTE]Im gonna be totally honest with you about my oppinion, i would not by a soundcard just for gaming, just not worth the little improvment from that kind of sound, i mean, the quality on most games sound is not the best and therfor a soundcard will not be the weakest link. When talking about sound we have a very high rate of ''plazebo'' many people think it sounds better just because it's a expencive card or they have fairly expencive computer speakers, and yes i't actually may be so but with the ecuipment many have they really wont know the diffrence of good or better. I am not generalizing, i said ''many people'' and not all. I am an audiophile, i really care about good sound but while gaming it's not all that important many other variables take in to count when gaming such as viewing and the game itsealf, but while playing a good recorded DVD musik thru the PC it's a big diffrence in clearity and crisp. (If you got the PC connected digital to an AMP/receiver that have fairly good quality, and matched with good speakers.) And while recording musik in the studio a great sound card will show how good it is, but for casual gaming and MP3 musik any motherboard soundchip/card will do just fine.So what it really comes down to is what your main usage for the card is, and if it's the upgrade you really want.I would recomend the card in my rig, has great components. (same as found in creatives moust expencive pro studio cards.) And sound amacing for it's value, great for studio use and very,very low noise. and perform outstanding in musik. ouch.., this was a long post for such short q but atleast im honest and not trying to sell you a soundblaster. XD...
im not just using it for aming i listen to a lot of music and watch films on my my pc i just thought the gamer title was just marketing thats all and im not just getting better speakers for sound i want 5.1 for films and games, i dont have a single use but many and thought that my sound was alcking
[QUOTE=''humpas'']im not just using it for aming i listen to a lot of music and watch films on my my pc i just thought the gamer title was just marketing thats all and im not just getting better speakers for sound i want 5.1 for films and games, i dont have a single use but many and thought that my sound was alcking[/QUOTE]
All gigabyte p35 are shipped with onboard soud able to output 5.1 channel sound.
If this is the problem, you migth get new speakers witch actually are 5 (+ subwoofer) seperate speakers. ;)
it does make a difference... i have a Soundblaster X-FI Platnium hooked to a Onkyo 908 System hooked with Optical... and trust me it makes a big difference... well unless you get the new Ati Radeon 4870x2 which has HDMI with Full 1080p, if you want great sound get a Platnium version of a Creative card and use the optical inputs... but i guess if you only have 2.1 sound then there really aint going to be a big change
Definitely. Especially if you have a decent set of speakers. Going from onboard sound to my sound card was like night and day. Everything was so much clearer and crisp. Totally worth it.is it worth getting a dedicated sound card
wot would u recommend then
What's your budget? And what speakers do you have?
Going from a realtech88xx to a x-fi insnt that big upgrade, but to an good card migth be a diffrence.
I can tell you that a sub $50 card will not make a diffrence, but a good $100 card will.
So it's about what card you get, not that it's just a dedicated sound card, cos there a bunch of lame cards out.
...But using computer speakers with a expencive soundcard is a waste, even the best computerspeakers is weak and sound bad when compared to a decent Amp and speakers.
Depends on the card.
got 2.1 sony srs d211 surprisingly gd value bass is decent but i see your arguement and it might be better for me to get better speakers first any recomendations i paln on getting them and maybe the sound card all on boxing day in sales
Yes it should make a diference.
I have a surround sound speakers a z-5450 Logitech speakers and what a difference it maks imo.
I used to have a 100 + sound card and it only last about 1 month or so before it died on me but I whent out and bought a 30.00 card and it has lasted longer then that card like 5 or more months and I'm not joking. I'm not sure if I had a bad card to begin with or what but this older cheaper one works just fine for me.
I used to have a soundblaster extremegameing sound card and I love that card a lot but that is the one that lasted like a month or so.
Now I have a sound blaster se and that card has gone farther then the other one. So I'm not sure how to explain that one.
get sumthing soundblaster i recommend the xi-fi gamer edition.
[QUOTE=''humpas''] is it worth it if its goan be pci and not pci-e as i noly have one pci-e slot and thats used by my gpu[/QUOTE]No it is not worth it. Invest your money into better speakers which makes the difference of course you could buy expensive speakers and sound cards that cost more than my entire Rig. It isn't worth it in my opinion.
ok im gona dis regard the last comment as it seems to be the minority and how about this for sound card the Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer as for speakers im not to sure im just gona buy it all at once to make it simpler
[QUOTE=''humpas'']ok im gona dis regard the last comment as it seems to be the minority and how about this for sound card the Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer as for speakers im not to sure im just gona buy it all at once to make it simpler[/QUOTE]Im gonna be totally honest with you about my oppinion, i would not by a soundcard just for gaming, just not worth the little improvment from that kind of sound, i mean, the quality on most games sound is not the best and therfor a soundcard will not be the weakest link. When talking about sound we have a very high rate of ''plazebo'' many people think it sounds better just because it's a expencive card or they have fairly expencive computer speakers, and yes i't actually may be so but with the ecuipment many have they really wont know the diffrence of good or better. I am not generalizing, i said ''many people'' and not all. I am an audiophile, i really care about good sound but while gaming it's not all that important many other variables take in to count when gaming such as viewing and the game itsealf, but while playing a good recorded DVD musik thru the PC it's a big diffrence in clearity and crisp. (If you got the PC connected digital to an AMP/receiver that have fairly good quality, and matched with good speakers.) And while recording musik in the studio a great sound card will show how good it is, but for casual gaming and MP3 musik any motherboard soundchip/card will do just fine.So what it really comes down to is what your main usage for the card is, and if it's the upgrade you really want.I would recomend the card in my rig, has great components. (same as found in creatives moust expencive pro studio cards.) And sound amacing for it's value, great for studio use and very,very low noise. and perform outstanding in musik. ouch.., this was a long post for such short q but atleast im honest and not trying to sell you a soundblaster. XD...
im not just using it for aming i listen to a lot of music and watch films on my my pc i just thought the gamer title was just marketing thats all and im not just getting better speakers for sound i want 5.1 for films and games, i dont have a single use but many and thought that my sound was alcking
[QUOTE=''humpas'']im not just using it for aming i listen to a lot of music and watch films on my my pc i just thought the gamer title was just marketing thats all and im not just getting better speakers for sound i want 5.1 for films and games, i dont have a single use but many and thought that my sound was alcking[/QUOTE]
All gigabyte p35 are shipped with onboard soud able to output 5.1 channel sound.
If this is the problem, you migth get new speakers witch actually are 5 (+ subwoofer) seperate speakers. ;)
it does make a difference... i have a Soundblaster X-FI Platnium hooked to a Onkyo 908 System hooked with Optical... and trust me it makes a big difference... well unless you get the new Ati Radeon 4870x2 which has HDMI with Full 1080p, if you want great sound get a Platnium version of a Creative card and use the optical inputs... but i guess if you only have 2.1 sound then there really aint going to be a big change
Best Mo-Bo for this Card?
XFX GeForce 7600 GSI purchased this card a while back. I've been adding upgrades to my good old Dell computer and I think it's time I just bought a new Mo-Bo and CPU. I purchased a Pentium Dual Core 775 CPU and this motherboard. The motherboard didn't work..:(
Basically, what's the best Mo-Bo available for this video card. I don't care so much if it isn't the same CPU that I bought. I've searched, but can't find anything.(Yeah, I know AGP is old, but the card was expensive. I don't wanna waste too much and I wanna keep the card. I'm not too interested in buying a new comp.) Best Mo-Bo for this Card?
I wouldnt even bother with that. For around $150 you can upgrade ram,video card and mobo and still use that cpu. Plus upgrade again later to better cpu and videocard in the future. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4222488%26CatId=1533 Mobo $50 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3092423%26CatId=1560 -8600GT $50 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2206874%26CatId=2261 - 2 gb DDR2 $40 ($10 AR*)Best Mo-Bo for this Card?
Man, I should of posted this earlier. Like 2 months earlier lol. I feel so stupid right now. :lol: Thanks for the info; I'm gonna see what I can do.
agp is holding u back
Basically, what's the best Mo-Bo available for this video card. I don't care so much if it isn't the same CPU that I bought. I've searched, but can't find anything.(Yeah, I know AGP is old, but the card was expensive. I don't wanna waste too much and I wanna keep the card. I'm not too interested in buying a new comp.) Best Mo-Bo for this Card?
I wouldnt even bother with that. For around $150 you can upgrade ram,video card and mobo and still use that cpu. Plus upgrade again later to better cpu and videocard in the future. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4222488%26CatId=1533 Mobo $50 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3092423%26CatId=1560 -8600GT $50 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2206874%26CatId=2261 - 2 gb DDR2 $40 ($10 AR*)Best Mo-Bo for this Card?
Man, I should of posted this earlier. Like 2 months earlier lol. I feel so stupid right now. :lol: Thanks for the info; I'm gonna see what I can do.
agp is holding u back
Lower than expected 3d marks 06 score help me point out why?
getting 12k Specs:AMD Phenom X 4 9950 2.6 ghz stock (score is fine here) 4 gigs sli ready ocz pc 6400 800 mhz ramAsus 9800 gtx+ dark knight edition (gpu is scoring low)Hec 650 watt power supply sli readyAsus M3N72-D 750a ( is the mobo the problem)Lower than expected 3d marks 06 score help me point out why?
Drivers? As in chipset drivers for your motherboard?Lower than expected 3d marks 06 score help me point out why?
180.84 forceware latest and 0502 latest mobo driverswin xp 32 osthx for the reply!!
Hmmm....no idea then. What brand is Hec btw?
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12k isn't low for the 9800.
maybe gpu is not getting enough power... i am about 3000 points short of my goal on 3d marks and that is only dependent on gpu scoreumm this is the exact power supply i have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339024
@ wasdie http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/11655-evga-9800-gtx-512mb-video-card-review-8.html
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE]
what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722
that means my gpu scored is like 8278
with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each
3dmark 06 is mostly cpu bound anyway..
Try 180.70 drivers or the 180.48 WHQL.
[QUOTE=''banemind''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE] what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722 that means my gpu scored is like 8278 with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each[/QUOTE]IDK exactly but I will run the test and let you know.
[QUOTE=''jmnderson69'']
ok will do but will the system let me revert?
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''banemind''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE] what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722 that means my gpu scored is like 8278 with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each[/QUOTE]IDK exactly but I will run the test and let you know. [/QUOTE]
thx m8 for going through the trouble rofl
Its ur cpu. Amds score very low.
[QUOTE=''Gamerkat'']Its ur cpu. Amds score very low.[/QUOTE]the cpu is scoring as expected i looked into the test history of the amd phenom X 4 and they are getting substantially higher scores in the 15.7k to 16k with this card.the gpu is not scoring well enough... is there a power problem?
I don't know what to tell you. That score seems about right for what you have.. It's not a bad score, but I would say that an overclock on that phenom should make a significant difference. No offense, but I find it really hard to believe that anybody with that cpu running at 2.6ghz and that video card would be getting 16k. My gpu with the overclock is very close to your card's performance, and my cpu scores much higher than a phenom. I get 14762 on my system as it is.
Your score isn't low at all...
Drivers? As in chipset drivers for your motherboard?Lower than expected 3d marks 06 score help me point out why?
180.84 forceware latest and 0502 latest mobo driverswin xp 32 osthx for the reply!!
Hmmm....no idea then. What brand is Hec btw?
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]
12k isn't low for the 9800.
maybe gpu is not getting enough power... i am about 3000 points short of my goal on 3d marks and that is only dependent on gpu scoreumm this is the exact power supply i have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339024
@ wasdie http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/11655-evga-9800-gtx-512mb-video-card-review-8.html
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE]
what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722
that means my gpu scored is like 8278
with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each
3dmark 06 is mostly cpu bound anyway..
Try 180.70 drivers or the 180.48 WHQL.
[QUOTE=''banemind''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE] what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722 that means my gpu scored is like 8278 with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each[/QUOTE]IDK exactly but I will run the test and let you know.
[QUOTE=''jmnderson69'']
ok will do but will the system let me revert?
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''banemind''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE] what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722 that means my gpu scored is like 8278 with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each[/QUOTE]IDK exactly but I will run the test and let you know. [/QUOTE]
thx m8 for going through the trouble rofl
Its ur cpu. Amds score very low.
[QUOTE=''Gamerkat'']Its ur cpu. Amds score very low.[/QUOTE]the cpu is scoring as expected i looked into the test history of the amd phenom X 4 and they are getting substantially higher scores in the 15.7k to 16k with this card.the gpu is not scoring well enough... is there a power problem?
I don't know what to tell you. That score seems about right for what you have.. It's not a bad score, but I would say that an overclock on that phenom should make a significant difference. No offense, but I find it really hard to believe that anybody with that cpu running at 2.6ghz and that video card would be getting 16k. My gpu with the overclock is very close to your card's performance, and my cpu scores much higher than a phenom. I get 14762 on my system as it is.
Your score isn't low at all...
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