Okay so this christmas i'm asking for a new graphics card, and i'm really considering getting the EVGA 9800GT Akimbo 512mb. What I want to know is,1. What kind of performance could i get out of this card? 2. How far would i be able to overclock it?here are my specs- HP a1600n desktop computer, 2GB 667Mhz RAM, AMD Athlon 64X2 3800+ processor (2.0Ghz), and a Mad Dog 430 Watt power supply with 2 +12v rails, each at 15A. so mainly i'm worried about my processor bottlenecking and whether or not my power supply would be able to handle the card and/or how much it would overclock.two questions (GPU, PSU)
[QUOTE=''joe11king'']Okay so this christmas i'm asking for a new graphics card, and i'm really considering getting the EVGA 9800GT Akimbo 512mb. What I want to know is,1. What kind of performance could i get out of this card? 2. How far would i be able to overclock it?here are my specs- HP a1600n desktop computer, 2GB 667Mhz RAM, AMD Athlon 64X2 3800+ processor (2.0Ghz), and a Mad Dog 430 Watt power supply with 2 +12v rails, each at 15A. so mainly i'm worried about my processor bottlenecking and whether or not my power supply would be able to handle the card and/or how much it would overclock.[/QUOTE]
I think 15 amps on the 12 volts might be a little low, almost at the edge for the card so i'd be careful OCing the card. as far as your question, well for that you need to do your homework and look up on google ''9800GT review'' or ''9800GT benchmarks'' and read some graphs. I will tell you that it is a pretty decent card (for what i've heard) although If you were willing to spend a little extra cash, I would recommend the HD4850two questions (GPU, PSU)
well don't the ATI cards have a little bit steeper power requirements? anyways, keep in mind that it has 2 12 volt rails. i know you can't just say 15+15=30 amps but it would be somewhere around there, right? the thing i keep telling myself is, is that those power requirements are for a fully loaded system. i only have 1 hard drive, and my processor doesn't exactly suck a lot of power so... would i be able to get away with it, all things considered?
I have a similar specs as your pc goes. Like AMD athlon 64x2 3800+ (2.0) I have 2 gigs of ddr ram not sure what hurts they are running at but I do have a 500wat psu that can run a 8800 gt overclock 256mb and with this card it has preform for me quite well and far as the 9800gt gpu goes I'm not sure how the 2 would compare to each other cause you can't go by like mine is a 8800 and that is a 9800 cause you would think the 9800 should be better but I'm not sure if that is true or not.
You should look up that card a read all about it cause that is what I did for months before settleing on the card that I have now.
yes, thats actually exactly how i am. i've been reading up on this for quite a while. the specs of the 9800 are exactly the same, except the manufacture process is smaller. so it generates less heat and uses less power. what resolution/ settings can you run crysis on and what FPS do you get?
bump?
You'll need to ask this question to some one else cause I don't have crysis. From what I have heard is that Crysis is a tough game to get to play smoothly on some pcs. I don't care for that game. I use to play FPS games on my pc but scence I have a 32'' LCD HDT/ monitor and it isn't on a desk this monitor is like 3' away and I'm having to use a moble desk that has wheels and I have a wireless key board and mouse and so I just stick with RTS games they are easyer to play with with a settup like this.
Just pickup a psu with 500+ watts with 26+ Amps on the 12v rail and is 70%+ efficiency rating. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276573%26Sku=ULT-LSP650 - 650 watt psu $50
Corsair VX-450W
An x2 3800 will probably bottleneck that GPU.
Bottleneck only occurs when the cpu is below the min requirements for the card and when a program'game wants a better cpu.
That CPU is below recommended CPU requirements for new games, it will bottleneck newer games. Its an old cpu, and wasn't that great even when it was new.
Well that is what you think. I beg to differ cause my pc as I said before I tink is 2+ years old and has done just fine for me and the only game that tends to slow down when I goto play on it is SC and I think the gpu is fine it is just that the pc can't handle this game.
Some day I plan to build my own pc but until then I have to stick with what I have.
I have a 500 watt psu with an 8800gt overclocked 256mb and it plays all current games that I have except for SC that is and even at low settings it still stutters.
Aside from that game C%26C Red Alert 3 and the rest of the the C%26C games I can play all on the max setting well not the max but really all but the rez I put on max.
Well, its not what I think. I had that same cpu/gpu combo. It bottlenecks. Just because games run at good frame rates doesn't mean there isn't a bottleneck. You'd get even better frames with a better CPU.
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Intalling Display Drivers
I have installed display drivers before, but I never uninstalled my previous one before installing the new one. But If I uninstall my current driver, wouldn't that stop my display adapter from working properly? I just don't get how it works to uninstall my current driver before installing the new one, because that would leave my display adapter with no driver at all. Can someone please point me in the right direction here. Oh I am also running SLI. Intalling Display Drivers
Just uninstall your driver from add/remove programs, and reboot. Windows will then use the default VGA driver. Then install your new driver.Intalling Display Drivers
Okay thanks I'll try that.
One more question before I install this new driver. The driver I am wanting to install is the Nvidia 178.24 driver, but my gpu isn't listed on the supported gpu list. I figured it was just because I have a mobile gpu.Would it be a wise decision to install that driver anyway? *Edit, nope it won't install. During the installation it say that no drivers were found that were compatable with my hardware. Oh well guess I'll just keep my old driver.
Just uninstall your driver from add/remove programs, and reboot. Windows will then use the default VGA driver. Then install your new driver.Intalling Display Drivers
Okay thanks I'll try that.
One more question before I install this new driver. The driver I am wanting to install is the Nvidia 178.24 driver, but my gpu isn't listed on the supported gpu list. I figured it was just because I have a mobile gpu.Would it be a wise decision to install that driver anyway? *Edit, nope it won't install. During the installation it say that no drivers were found that were compatable with my hardware. Oh well guess I'll just keep my old driver.
Last Q about if this stuff will work
OK just wondering if all this stuff will work together? i think it does just wanna make sure :) thanks1. XFX MG61MI7059 nForce 610i/GeForce 7050 1333Mhz FSB Intel Socket LGA 775 DDR2 Micro ATX SLI Ready Motherboard $ 67
2. Intel Pentium E2200 Allendale 2.2GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor $70
3. CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory $55
4. Aspire 600W DarkSide Alum Black PSU - Blue Sleeves $90 Amazon.com
5. APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-SS blackp Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $60
6. Western Digital Caviar GP WD5000AACS 500GB 5400 to 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive %26ndash; OEM
7. Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm ''Core Contact Freezer'' CPU Cooler $40
8. LITE-ON Black 52X CD-ROM SATA CD-ROM Drive Model LTN-52S1S-10 $14
9. LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 $18
10. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD %26ndash; OEM $100
Last Q about if this stuff will work
Looks good, but do you have a graphics card already?Last Q about if this stuff will work
Question: 1: No graphics card? 2: Looks like an old processor... Probably for just $20 more you could upgrade to something a lot better. 3: Never heard of that Power supply brand. I would go for Corsair, Antec, Thermaltake, or Coolermaster. 4: Last bit of advice, you look for the cheapest deal and get unknown brand parts and you will have a lot more hassle trying to get it all sorted out with poor quality and performance versus just paying an extra $20 here or there.
http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/motherboards/6series/~/ecms.aspx/XFXCPUCompatibilityList-Intel.pdf. For some reason your cpu isn't listed as compatible. I'm not sure that the ram is compatible also.
You need to rethink that build.
I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest[/QUOTE]I don't rely on Tom's too much, but this might help: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-graphics-overclocking,2082.html
so you think that will work if i just change my mobo and processor with what he says and get diff PSU?
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest[/QUOTE]
Go to this site and customize a build for yourself for your budget... www.ecollegepc.com Won't be easy to get what you want for under $700. I've bought three custom builds from them and absolutely no complaints.
how about this???1. GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard %26ndash; Retail $100
2. Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 %26ndash; Retail $83
3. PNY XLR8 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model MD2048KD2-800-X4 %26ndash; Retail $40
4. CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX 520W ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply %26ndash; Retail $140
5. APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-SS blackp Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $60
6. Western Digital Caviar GP WD5000AACS 500GB 5400 to 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive %26ndash; OEM
7. Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm ''Core Contact Freezer'' CPU Cooler $40
8. LITE-ON Black 52X CD-ROM SATA CD-ROM Drive Model LTN-52S1S-10 $14
9. LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 $18
10. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD %26ndash; OEM $100
11. XFX PVT96OSDFH GeForce 9600 GSO 768MB 192-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
How will that work??Thanks:)
Looks good !!! Just be sure that your heatsink going to fit your case. Cheers
How do i figur that out or can u recomend a good heatsink for about the same price??
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']How do i figur that out or can u recomend a good heatsink for about the same price??[/QUOTE]This is good for the money and a rather easy install (Compared to others): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134this works
2. Intel Pentium E2200 Allendale 2.2GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor $70
3. CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory $55
4. Aspire 600W DarkSide Alum Black PSU - Blue Sleeves $90 Amazon.com
5. APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-SS blackp Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $60
6. Western Digital Caviar GP WD5000AACS 500GB 5400 to 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive %26ndash; OEM
7. Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm ''Core Contact Freezer'' CPU Cooler $40
8. LITE-ON Black 52X CD-ROM SATA CD-ROM Drive Model LTN-52S1S-10 $14
9. LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 $18
10. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD %26ndash; OEM $100
Last Q about if this stuff will work
Looks good, but do you have a graphics card already?Last Q about if this stuff will work
Question: 1: No graphics card? 2: Looks like an old processor... Probably for just $20 more you could upgrade to something a lot better. 3: Never heard of that Power supply brand. I would go for Corsair, Antec, Thermaltake, or Coolermaster. 4: Last bit of advice, you look for the cheapest deal and get unknown brand parts and you will have a lot more hassle trying to get it all sorted out with poor quality and performance versus just paying an extra $20 here or there.
http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/motherboards/6series/~/ecms.aspx/XFXCPUCompatibilityList-Intel.pdf. For some reason your cpu isn't listed as compatible. I'm not sure that the ram is compatible also.
You need to rethink that build.
I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest[/QUOTE]I don't rely on Tom's too much, but this might help: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-graphics-overclocking,2082.html
so you think that will work if i just change my mobo and processor with what he says and get diff PSU?
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']I have a budget of no over $700 what would you guys suggest[/QUOTE]
Go to this site and customize a build for yourself for your budget... www.ecollegepc.com Won't be easy to get what you want for under $700. I've bought three custom builds from them and absolutely no complaints.
how about this???1. GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard %26ndash; Retail $100
2. Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 %26ndash; Retail $83
3. PNY XLR8 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model MD2048KD2-800-X4 %26ndash; Retail $40
4. CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX 520W ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply %26ndash; Retail $140
5. APEVIA X-Plorer ATXB8KLW-SS blackp Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $60
6. Western Digital Caviar GP WD5000AACS 500GB 5400 to 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive %26ndash; OEM
7. Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm ''Core Contact Freezer'' CPU Cooler $40
8. LITE-ON Black 52X CD-ROM SATA CD-ROM Drive Model LTN-52S1S-10 $14
9. LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 $18
10. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD %26ndash; OEM $100
11. XFX PVT96OSDFH GeForce 9600 GSO 768MB 192-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
How will that work??Thanks:)
Looks good !!! Just be sure that your heatsink going to fit your case. Cheers
How do i figur that out or can u recomend a good heatsink for about the same price??
[QUOTE=''Hmanslice'']How do i figur that out or can u recomend a good heatsink for about the same price??[/QUOTE]This is good for the money and a rather easy install (Compared to others): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
How is this gaming pc??
Alright so this is my first time building a pc and i'de like to know if this is a good rig if i want to play games like Battlefield 2, cs:source, Bioshock, mabye crysis, and some other multiplayer fps's with high frame rate and no lag issues.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103272CPUhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130370Video Cardhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136283Hard Drivehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184RAMI already have a 500w power supply so the only thing i am missing is a Motherboard. Could anyone possibly recommend me a good mobo that would be suitable for the rest of my rig but relatively cheap?How is this gaming pc??
500 Watt are you serious? What brand and model of PSU you got? It better be a brilliant one!How is this gaming pc??
All I got to say is that most likely your 500 watt psu wont power that card. Average Amp ratings for good 500's is low 30's. The better 500's do max of 40 some Amps. unless you have a $100+ 500 watt psu, you need to get a new psu 600 watts or better with 40's or better Amp 12v rating.
I run my GTX 260 on a 650 watt Corsair TX 650. Great PSU, plenty of amps.
[QUOTE=''jmnderson69'']I run my GTX 260 on a 650 watt Corsair TX 650. Great PSU, plenty of amps.[/QUOTE]
Alright so assuming i got that PSU or one similar, what would be a good motherboard to purchase that would be adequate with the rest of my system
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128081
Alrighty thanks a lot
500 Watt are you serious? What brand and model of PSU you got? It better be a brilliant one!How is this gaming pc??
All I got to say is that most likely your 500 watt psu wont power that card. Average Amp ratings for good 500's is low 30's. The better 500's do max of 40 some Amps. unless you have a $100+ 500 watt psu, you need to get a new psu 600 watts or better with 40's or better Amp 12v rating.
I run my GTX 260 on a 650 watt Corsair TX 650. Great PSU, plenty of amps.
[QUOTE=''jmnderson69'']I run my GTX 260 on a 650 watt Corsair TX 650. Great PSU, plenty of amps.[/QUOTE]
Alright so assuming i got that PSU or one similar, what would be a good motherboard to purchase that would be adequate with the rest of my system
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128081
Alrighty thanks a lot
is it worth getting a dedicated sound card
is it worth it if its goan be pci and not pci-e as i noly have one pci-e slot and thats used by my gpuis it worth getting a dedicated sound card
Definitely. Especially if you have a decent set of speakers. Going from onboard sound to my sound card was like night and day. Everything was so much clearer and crisp. Totally worth it.is it worth getting a dedicated sound card
wot would u recommend then
What's your budget? And what speakers do you have?
Going from a realtech88xx to a x-fi insnt that big upgrade, but to an good card migth be a diffrence.
I can tell you that a sub $50 card will not make a diffrence, but a good $100 card will.
So it's about what card you get, not that it's just a dedicated sound card, cos there a bunch of lame cards out.
...But using computer speakers with a expencive soundcard is a waste, even the best computerspeakers is weak and sound bad when compared to a decent Amp and speakers.
Depends on the card.
got 2.1 sony srs d211 surprisingly gd value bass is decent but i see your arguement and it might be better for me to get better speakers first any recomendations i paln on getting them and maybe the sound card all on boxing day in sales
Yes it should make a diference.
I have a surround sound speakers a z-5450 Logitech speakers and what a difference it maks imo.
I used to have a 100 + sound card and it only last about 1 month or so before it died on me but I whent out and bought a 30.00 card and it has lasted longer then that card like 5 or more months and I'm not joking. I'm not sure if I had a bad card to begin with or what but this older cheaper one works just fine for me.
I used to have a soundblaster extremegameing sound card and I love that card a lot but that is the one that lasted like a month or so.
Now I have a sound blaster se and that card has gone farther then the other one. So I'm not sure how to explain that one.
get sumthing soundblaster i recommend the xi-fi gamer edition.
[QUOTE=''humpas''] is it worth it if its goan be pci and not pci-e as i noly have one pci-e slot and thats used by my gpu[/QUOTE]No it is not worth it. Invest your money into better speakers which makes the difference of course you could buy expensive speakers and sound cards that cost more than my entire Rig. It isn't worth it in my opinion.
ok im gona dis regard the last comment as it seems to be the minority and how about this for sound card the Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer as for speakers im not to sure im just gona buy it all at once to make it simpler
[QUOTE=''humpas'']ok im gona dis regard the last comment as it seems to be the minority and how about this for sound card the Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer as for speakers im not to sure im just gona buy it all at once to make it simpler[/QUOTE]Im gonna be totally honest with you about my oppinion, i would not by a soundcard just for gaming, just not worth the little improvment from that kind of sound, i mean, the quality on most games sound is not the best and therfor a soundcard will not be the weakest link. When talking about sound we have a very high rate of ''plazebo'' many people think it sounds better just because it's a expencive card or they have fairly expencive computer speakers, and yes i't actually may be so but with the ecuipment many have they really wont know the diffrence of good or better. I am not generalizing, i said ''many people'' and not all. I am an audiophile, i really care about good sound but while gaming it's not all that important many other variables take in to count when gaming such as viewing and the game itsealf, but while playing a good recorded DVD musik thru the PC it's a big diffrence in clearity and crisp. (If you got the PC connected digital to an AMP/receiver that have fairly good quality, and matched with good speakers.) And while recording musik in the studio a great sound card will show how good it is, but for casual gaming and MP3 musik any motherboard soundchip/card will do just fine.So what it really comes down to is what your main usage for the card is, and if it's the upgrade you really want.I would recomend the card in my rig, has great components. (same as found in creatives moust expencive pro studio cards.) And sound amacing for it's value, great for studio use and very,very low noise. and perform outstanding in musik. ouch.., this was a long post for such short q but atleast im honest and not trying to sell you a soundblaster. XD...
im not just using it for aming i listen to a lot of music and watch films on my my pc i just thought the gamer title was just marketing thats all and im not just getting better speakers for sound i want 5.1 for films and games, i dont have a single use but many and thought that my sound was alcking
[QUOTE=''humpas'']im not just using it for aming i listen to a lot of music and watch films on my my pc i just thought the gamer title was just marketing thats all and im not just getting better speakers for sound i want 5.1 for films and games, i dont have a single use but many and thought that my sound was alcking[/QUOTE]
All gigabyte p35 are shipped with onboard soud able to output 5.1 channel sound.
If this is the problem, you migth get new speakers witch actually are 5 (+ subwoofer) seperate speakers. ;)
it does make a difference... i have a Soundblaster X-FI Platnium hooked to a Onkyo 908 System hooked with Optical... and trust me it makes a big difference... well unless you get the new Ati Radeon 4870x2 which has HDMI with Full 1080p, if you want great sound get a Platnium version of a Creative card and use the optical inputs... but i guess if you only have 2.1 sound then there really aint going to be a big change
Definitely. Especially if you have a decent set of speakers. Going from onboard sound to my sound card was like night and day. Everything was so much clearer and crisp. Totally worth it.is it worth getting a dedicated sound card
wot would u recommend then
What's your budget? And what speakers do you have?
Going from a realtech88xx to a x-fi insnt that big upgrade, but to an good card migth be a diffrence.
I can tell you that a sub $50 card will not make a diffrence, but a good $100 card will.
So it's about what card you get, not that it's just a dedicated sound card, cos there a bunch of lame cards out.
...But using computer speakers with a expencive soundcard is a waste, even the best computerspeakers is weak and sound bad when compared to a decent Amp and speakers.
Depends on the card.
got 2.1 sony srs d211 surprisingly gd value bass is decent but i see your arguement and it might be better for me to get better speakers first any recomendations i paln on getting them and maybe the sound card all on boxing day in sales
Yes it should make a diference.
I have a surround sound speakers a z-5450 Logitech speakers and what a difference it maks imo.
I used to have a 100 + sound card and it only last about 1 month or so before it died on me but I whent out and bought a 30.00 card and it has lasted longer then that card like 5 or more months and I'm not joking. I'm not sure if I had a bad card to begin with or what but this older cheaper one works just fine for me.
I used to have a soundblaster extremegameing sound card and I love that card a lot but that is the one that lasted like a month or so.
Now I have a sound blaster se and that card has gone farther then the other one. So I'm not sure how to explain that one.
get sumthing soundblaster i recommend the xi-fi gamer edition.
[QUOTE=''humpas''] is it worth it if its goan be pci and not pci-e as i noly have one pci-e slot and thats used by my gpu[/QUOTE]No it is not worth it. Invest your money into better speakers which makes the difference of course you could buy expensive speakers and sound cards that cost more than my entire Rig. It isn't worth it in my opinion.
ok im gona dis regard the last comment as it seems to be the minority and how about this for sound card the Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer as for speakers im not to sure im just gona buy it all at once to make it simpler
[QUOTE=''humpas'']ok im gona dis regard the last comment as it seems to be the minority and how about this for sound card the Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer as for speakers im not to sure im just gona buy it all at once to make it simpler[/QUOTE]Im gonna be totally honest with you about my oppinion, i would not by a soundcard just for gaming, just not worth the little improvment from that kind of sound, i mean, the quality on most games sound is not the best and therfor a soundcard will not be the weakest link. When talking about sound we have a very high rate of ''plazebo'' many people think it sounds better just because it's a expencive card or they have fairly expencive computer speakers, and yes i't actually may be so but with the ecuipment many have they really wont know the diffrence of good or better. I am not generalizing, i said ''many people'' and not all. I am an audiophile, i really care about good sound but while gaming it's not all that important many other variables take in to count when gaming such as viewing and the game itsealf, but while playing a good recorded DVD musik thru the PC it's a big diffrence in clearity and crisp. (If you got the PC connected digital to an AMP/receiver that have fairly good quality, and matched with good speakers.) And while recording musik in the studio a great sound card will show how good it is, but for casual gaming and MP3 musik any motherboard soundchip/card will do just fine.So what it really comes down to is what your main usage for the card is, and if it's the upgrade you really want.I would recomend the card in my rig, has great components. (same as found in creatives moust expencive pro studio cards.) And sound amacing for it's value, great for studio use and very,very low noise. and perform outstanding in musik. ouch.., this was a long post for such short q but atleast im honest and not trying to sell you a soundblaster. XD...
im not just using it for aming i listen to a lot of music and watch films on my my pc i just thought the gamer title was just marketing thats all and im not just getting better speakers for sound i want 5.1 for films and games, i dont have a single use but many and thought that my sound was alcking
[QUOTE=''humpas'']im not just using it for aming i listen to a lot of music and watch films on my my pc i just thought the gamer title was just marketing thats all and im not just getting better speakers for sound i want 5.1 for films and games, i dont have a single use but many and thought that my sound was alcking[/QUOTE]
All gigabyte p35 are shipped with onboard soud able to output 5.1 channel sound.
If this is the problem, you migth get new speakers witch actually are 5 (+ subwoofer) seperate speakers. ;)
it does make a difference... i have a Soundblaster X-FI Platnium hooked to a Onkyo 908 System hooked with Optical... and trust me it makes a big difference... well unless you get the new Ati Radeon 4870x2 which has HDMI with Full 1080p, if you want great sound get a Platnium version of a Creative card and use the optical inputs... but i guess if you only have 2.1 sound then there really aint going to be a big change
Best Mo-Bo for this Card?
XFX GeForce 7600 GSI purchased this card a while back. I've been adding upgrades to my good old Dell computer and I think it's time I just bought a new Mo-Bo and CPU. I purchased a Pentium Dual Core 775 CPU and this motherboard. The motherboard didn't work..:(
Basically, what's the best Mo-Bo available for this video card. I don't care so much if it isn't the same CPU that I bought. I've searched, but can't find anything.(Yeah, I know AGP is old, but the card was expensive. I don't wanna waste too much and I wanna keep the card. I'm not too interested in buying a new comp.) Best Mo-Bo for this Card?
I wouldnt even bother with that. For around $150 you can upgrade ram,video card and mobo and still use that cpu. Plus upgrade again later to better cpu and videocard in the future. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4222488%26CatId=1533 Mobo $50 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3092423%26CatId=1560 -8600GT $50 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2206874%26CatId=2261 - 2 gb DDR2 $40 ($10 AR*)Best Mo-Bo for this Card?
Man, I should of posted this earlier. Like 2 months earlier lol. I feel so stupid right now. :lol: Thanks for the info; I'm gonna see what I can do.
agp is holding u back
Basically, what's the best Mo-Bo available for this video card. I don't care so much if it isn't the same CPU that I bought. I've searched, but can't find anything.(Yeah, I know AGP is old, but the card was expensive. I don't wanna waste too much and I wanna keep the card. I'm not too interested in buying a new comp.) Best Mo-Bo for this Card?
I wouldnt even bother with that. For around $150 you can upgrade ram,video card and mobo and still use that cpu. Plus upgrade again later to better cpu and videocard in the future. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4222488%26CatId=1533 Mobo $50 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3092423%26CatId=1560 -8600GT $50 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2206874%26CatId=2261 - 2 gb DDR2 $40 ($10 AR*)Best Mo-Bo for this Card?
Man, I should of posted this earlier. Like 2 months earlier lol. I feel so stupid right now. :lol: Thanks for the info; I'm gonna see what I can do.
agp is holding u back
Lower than expected 3d marks 06 score help me point out why?
getting 12k Specs:AMD Phenom X 4 9950 2.6 ghz stock (score is fine here) 4 gigs sli ready ocz pc 6400 800 mhz ramAsus 9800 gtx+ dark knight edition (gpu is scoring low)Hec 650 watt power supply sli readyAsus M3N72-D 750a ( is the mobo the problem)Lower than expected 3d marks 06 score help me point out why?
Drivers? As in chipset drivers for your motherboard?Lower than expected 3d marks 06 score help me point out why?
180.84 forceware latest and 0502 latest mobo driverswin xp 32 osthx for the reply!!
Hmmm....no idea then. What brand is Hec btw?
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12k isn't low for the 9800.
maybe gpu is not getting enough power... i am about 3000 points short of my goal on 3d marks and that is only dependent on gpu scoreumm this is the exact power supply i have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339024
@ wasdie http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/11655-evga-9800-gtx-512mb-video-card-review-8.html
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE]
what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722
that means my gpu scored is like 8278
with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each
3dmark 06 is mostly cpu bound anyway..
Try 180.70 drivers or the 180.48 WHQL.
[QUOTE=''banemind''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE] what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722 that means my gpu scored is like 8278 with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each[/QUOTE]IDK exactly but I will run the test and let you know.
[QUOTE=''jmnderson69'']
ok will do but will the system let me revert?
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''banemind''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE] what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722 that means my gpu scored is like 8278 with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each[/QUOTE]IDK exactly but I will run the test and let you know. [/QUOTE]
thx m8 for going through the trouble rofl
Its ur cpu. Amds score very low.
[QUOTE=''Gamerkat'']Its ur cpu. Amds score very low.[/QUOTE]the cpu is scoring as expected i looked into the test history of the amd phenom X 4 and they are getting substantially higher scores in the 15.7k to 16k with this card.the gpu is not scoring well enough... is there a power problem?
I don't know what to tell you. That score seems about right for what you have.. It's not a bad score, but I would say that an overclock on that phenom should make a significant difference. No offense, but I find it really hard to believe that anybody with that cpu running at 2.6ghz and that video card would be getting 16k. My gpu with the overclock is very close to your card's performance, and my cpu scores much higher than a phenom. I get 14762 on my system as it is.
Your score isn't low at all...
Drivers? As in chipset drivers for your motherboard?Lower than expected 3d marks 06 score help me point out why?
180.84 forceware latest and 0502 latest mobo driverswin xp 32 osthx for the reply!!
Hmmm....no idea then. What brand is Hec btw?
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12k isn't low for the 9800.
maybe gpu is not getting enough power... i am about 3000 points short of my goal on 3d marks and that is only dependent on gpu scoreumm this is the exact power supply i have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339024
@ wasdie http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/11655-evga-9800-gtx-512mb-video-card-review-8.html
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE]
what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722
that means my gpu scored is like 8278
with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each
3dmark 06 is mostly cpu bound anyway..
Try 180.70 drivers or the 180.48 WHQL.
[QUOTE=''banemind''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE] what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722 that means my gpu scored is like 8278 with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each[/QUOTE]IDK exactly but I will run the test and let you know.
[QUOTE=''jmnderson69'']
ok will do but will the system let me revert?
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''banemind''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']I get 10K on my rig. Windows XP Pro, AMD 3800X2 @ 2.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 9800GTX non-overclocked. So I think those are about right since your OC and have a better cpu + more RAM.[/QUOTE] what was ur cpu score... mine was 3722 that means my gpu scored is like 8278 with sm3 and sm2 scores both being like 1k lower than usual each[/QUOTE]IDK exactly but I will run the test and let you know. [/QUOTE]
thx m8 for going through the trouble rofl
Its ur cpu. Amds score very low.
[QUOTE=''Gamerkat'']Its ur cpu. Amds score very low.[/QUOTE]the cpu is scoring as expected i looked into the test history of the amd phenom X 4 and they are getting substantially higher scores in the 15.7k to 16k with this card.the gpu is not scoring well enough... is there a power problem?
I don't know what to tell you. That score seems about right for what you have.. It's not a bad score, but I would say that an overclock on that phenom should make a significant difference. No offense, but I find it really hard to believe that anybody with that cpu running at 2.6ghz and that video card would be getting 16k. My gpu with the overclock is very close to your card's performance, and my cpu scores much higher than a phenom. I get 14762 on my system as it is.
Your score isn't low at all...
my 3dmark score any remarks ?
i just scored 11394 on 3d mark 06 , is it good or bad ? or normal for my rigmy 3dmark score any remarks ?
The Athlon is holding your PC back. I get 15320 with an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6Ghz and a 192 core GTX 260 XXX edition.my 3dmark score any remarks ?
:S , i'll check know on how to o'c it :(
I have to agree with him. You will see a huge jump if you switch to a fast current intel dual-core, and a bit of a jump if you can overclock your cpu. With the machine in my sig, I got 14762. Your video card is a decent amount faster than mine, so the cpu seems to be the issue. That score is about right for your system though, as I got right at 10000 with my old 2.6ghz athlon 64 x2 and my video card.
i cant upgrade now , and it seems that o'cing is a bit hard , so i'll have to wait till i upgrade the motherboard and cpu to a quad/phenom:? , i feel sorry for the gpu didnt think that my cpu would be such a bottleneck
3dmark is highly processor based when you get your score above 8,000. Amds score very low in 3dmark
AMD Phenoms get beat by Intel Core 2 Duos in pretty much everything. He will see the benefit when he upgrades, i made the jump from an AMD X2 as well.
yea i noticed , in the cpu test i only got 1-2 Fps . what is a decent intel quad core for a reasonable price? , would i notice such a huge imporvement in gaming ?am running crysis all high . 1650 res. 4 x AA , and getting around 25-40 Fps , and all other games with flying numbers
If you must have quad then a Q6600 is the best value for money.
[QUOTE=''sentenced83'']yea i noticed , in the cpu test i only got 1-2 Fps . what is a decent intel quad core for a reasonable price? , would i notice such a huge imporvement in gaming ?am running crysis all high . 1650 res. 4 x AA , and getting around 25-40 Fps , and all other games with flying numbers [/QUOTE]
Thats normal, graphics cards cant generate fast graphics. The thing is though, that test is doing alot of measurements, thats where the processor is struggling. A quad core would be faster, not an amd though. Amd just cant hold its ground in processors.
You probably won't notice as big a difference in performance in real games as you did in the benchmark if you upgrade. On my 2.6ghz athlon x2 with my video card, I was averaging 33fps @1680x1050 on all high settings in crysis, dx9. With the upgraded cpu, I'm now averaging 37 fps. Your minimum frame rates will be higher, resulting in the impression that games are running much faster, when in fact they are just much smoother. However in 3dmark06 in the intro level of the benchmark, my old X2 was topping out at 64-65 fps, whereas with my current cpu (same video card mind you), I'm over 100fps.
Just another note on the real gaming performance gain with a fast Core 2 over an AMD x2, some games will run alot faster. World in Conflict was one example, where I gained 10-15fps at times because that game is so hard on the cpu.
its the processer I don't even bother with 3dmark why download a 400mb program just to tell me my pc sucks
LOL.. your PC doesn't suck. Far from it.
The Athlon is holding your PC back. I get 15320 with an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6Ghz and a 192 core GTX 260 XXX edition.my 3dmark score any remarks ?
:S , i'll check know on how to o'c it :(
I have to agree with him. You will see a huge jump if you switch to a fast current intel dual-core, and a bit of a jump if you can overclock your cpu. With the machine in my sig, I got 14762. Your video card is a decent amount faster than mine, so the cpu seems to be the issue. That score is about right for your system though, as I got right at 10000 with my old 2.6ghz athlon 64 x2 and my video card.
i cant upgrade now , and it seems that o'cing is a bit hard , so i'll have to wait till i upgrade the motherboard and cpu to a quad/phenom:? , i feel sorry for the gpu didnt think that my cpu would be such a bottleneck
3dmark is highly processor based when you get your score above 8,000. Amds score very low in 3dmark
AMD Phenoms get beat by Intel Core 2 Duos in pretty much everything. He will see the benefit when he upgrades, i made the jump from an AMD X2 as well.
yea i noticed , in the cpu test i only got 1-2 Fps . what is a decent intel quad core for a reasonable price? , would i notice such a huge imporvement in gaming ?am running crysis all high . 1650 res. 4 x AA , and getting around 25-40 Fps , and all other games with flying numbers
If you must have quad then a Q6600 is the best value for money.
[QUOTE=''sentenced83'']yea i noticed , in the cpu test i only got 1-2 Fps . what is a decent intel quad core for a reasonable price? , would i notice such a huge imporvement in gaming ?am running crysis all high . 1650 res. 4 x AA , and getting around 25-40 Fps , and all other games with flying numbers [/QUOTE]
Thats normal, graphics cards cant generate fast graphics. The thing is though, that test is doing alot of measurements, thats where the processor is struggling. A quad core would be faster, not an amd though. Amd just cant hold its ground in processors.
You probably won't notice as big a difference in performance in real games as you did in the benchmark if you upgrade. On my 2.6ghz athlon x2 with my video card, I was averaging 33fps @1680x1050 on all high settings in crysis, dx9. With the upgraded cpu, I'm now averaging 37 fps. Your minimum frame rates will be higher, resulting in the impression that games are running much faster, when in fact they are just much smoother. However in 3dmark06 in the intro level of the benchmark, my old X2 was topping out at 64-65 fps, whereas with my current cpu (same video card mind you), I'm over 100fps.
Just another note on the real gaming performance gain with a fast Core 2 over an AMD x2, some games will run alot faster. World in Conflict was one example, where I gained 10-15fps at times because that game is so hard on the cpu.
its the processer I don't even bother with 3dmark why download a 400mb program just to tell me my pc sucks
LOL.. your PC doesn't suck. Far from it.
UGH!!! help!!
Well, im in the middle of installing windows vista 64bit on my built pc(that i built yesterday) and its asking me to select the drivers to be installed, i tried putting in my mobo,video card, and windows vista cds but it always endsp saying no drvers could be found, it wont let me continue unless i select the drivers...what do i do??
Specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo 3GHzGigabyte EP45-UD3R
Geforce GTX 260/216 Core4GB (2 x 2) RAM UGH!!! help!!
well i had 64 bit vista ulitmate and after i let it install this i put n the mobo cd
are you talking about sata drivers?UGH!!! help!!
[QUOTE=''Grunge14''] Well, im in the middle of installing windows vista 64bit on my built pc(that i built yesterday) and its asking me to select the drivers to be installed, i tried putting in my mobo,video card, and windows vista cds but it always endsp saying no drvers could be found, it wont let me continue unless i select the drivers...what do i do??
Specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo 3GHzGigabyte EP45-UD3R
Geforce GTX 260/216 Core4GB (2 x 2) RAM [/QUOTE] connect to the internet..... When I have installed Vista (which sum total is 5 or 6 times ) I have never had a prompt that asks me to install a driver. That said, if i was not connected to the internet I think it might.
Well it says ''Select the drivers to be installed'' and i dont know what to put in...every cd i put in it says no drivers
[QUOTE=''NSR34GTR'']well i had 64 bit vista ulitmate and after i let it install this i put n the mobo cd
are you talking about sata drivers?[/QUOTE]
So do i connect to the internet then restart my computer then reinstall?
[QUOTE=''Grunge14''][QUOTE=''NSR34GTR'']well i had 64 bit vista ulitmate and after i let it install this i put n the mobo cd are you talking about sata drivers?[/QUOTE] So do i connect to the internet then restart my computer then reinstall?[/QUOTE]
Not for sure if what I am saying is the solution but it might be worth connecting your cables to your modem, the shutting everything down, re-start and install.
In other words I dont think you have to verify that you have a connection other then the router/modem being on and you cable pluged into your card.
You should not need any driver during the installation of Vista, that I am aware of at least.
What all do you have in the PC. Is it possible they are just giving you the option of installing drivers and you can just skip that part?
They wont let me skip, do i need to update my BIOS? bump
[QUOTE=''Grunge14'']They wont let me skip, do i need to update my BIOS? bump[/QUOTE] What about turning the power off. :) If you know for sure your cable is not ''wired'' into your connection to the internet I would turn the power off, plug in those cables and turn it back on. Worst case is that it will start the install from scratch but its likely it will pick up at someplace other then fresh start. I do assume you backed up any personal stuff
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[QUOTE=''SEANMCAD''][QUOTE=''Grunge14'']They wont let me skip, do i need to update my BIOS? bump[/QUOTE] What about turning the power off. :) If you know for sure your cable is not ''wired'' into your connection to the internet I would turn the power off, plug in those cables and turn it back on. Worst case is that it will start the install from scratch but its likely it will pick up at someplace other then fresh start. I do assume you backed up any personal stuff [/QUOTE]
Well its a brand new pc so...i just tried it again...it still says i need to install the drivers...i am not updating BTW...im installing vista for the first time bump
[QUOTE=''Grunge14''][QUOTE=''SEANMCAD''][QUOTE=''Grunge14'']They wont let me skip, do i need to update my BIOS? bump[/QUOTE] What about turning the power off. :) If you know for sure your cable is not ''wired'' into your connection to the internet I would turn the power off, plug in those cables and turn it back on. Worst case is that it will start the install from scratch but its likely it will pick up at someplace other then fresh start. I do assume you backed up any personal stuff [/QUOTE] Well its a brand new pc so...i just tried it again...it still says i need to install the drivers...i am not updating BTW...im installing vista for the first time bump[/QUOTE]
Yeah then I am at a lose I am afraid. All the installs I have done including the machine I built myself didnt ask me this so I assume it pulled what it needed from an online connection,.
bump .....*sigh*
Could you take a picture of the screen, or tell us exactly what it says.
What are your specs?
Heres some pics...sorry theyre kinda small, i took them with my phone
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1947-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1949.jpghttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1950-1.jpghttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1951.jpghttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1952.jpghttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1948.jpgwhen i put in my motherboard CD it says ''No device drivers were found. Make sure that the installation media contains the correct drivers. Then click OK.'' bump
OK, that helps, I think, LOL. Kinda hard to tell exactly what I am seeing, but I think it is at the screen asking you to choose what drive to install Vista on. The reason it is asking for drivers, is it figures there is a disk there that it just can't see.
Now I assume you have a HD, and it is hooked up, correct? If it is then you need to check and see if it is recognized in BIOS? Just go into BIOS and see if the HD shows up.
[QUOTE=''opamando'']OK, that helps, I think, LOL. Kinda hard to tell exactly what I am seeing, but I think it is at the screen asking you to choose what drive to install Vista on. The reason it is asking for drivers, is it figures there is a disk there that it just can't see.
Now I assume you have a HD, and it is hooked up, correct? If it is then you need to check and see if it is recognized in BIOS? Just go into BIOS and see if the HD shows up.[/QUOTE]
Yes the HD is hooked up and BIOS reads it.
Hmmm, interesting. You might have to format the HD first. If the drive did not come with any discs you should be able to download it from the manufacturers website.
[QUOTE=''opamando'']Hmmm, interesting. You might have to format the HD first. If the drive did not come with any discs you should be able to download it from the manufacturers website.[/QUOTE]
How am i supposed to format it from the internet if i dont have vista installed on my computer
How are you talking on this forum now, I assume using another PC, maybe not, but thats what I figured. If you are just download it on the other PC, burn it to a disc, or put on a flash drive. If that is not possible, I was doing some looking and it seems on some mobo's you need to switch a certain HD setting from SATA to IDE or something along that line, as all motherboards are different.Also it might help to know the specs.this works
Specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo 3GHzGigabyte EP45-UD3R
Geforce GTX 260/216 Core4GB (2 x 2) RAM UGH!!! help!!
well i had 64 bit vista ulitmate and after i let it install this i put n the mobo cd
are you talking about sata drivers?UGH!!! help!!
[QUOTE=''Grunge14''] Well, im in the middle of installing windows vista 64bit on my built pc(that i built yesterday) and its asking me to select the drivers to be installed, i tried putting in my mobo,video card, and windows vista cds but it always endsp saying no drvers could be found, it wont let me continue unless i select the drivers...what do i do??
Specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo 3GHzGigabyte EP45-UD3R
Geforce GTX 260/216 Core4GB (2 x 2) RAM [/QUOTE] connect to the internet..... When I have installed Vista (which sum total is 5 or 6 times ) I have never had a prompt that asks me to install a driver. That said, if i was not connected to the internet I think it might.
Well it says ''Select the drivers to be installed'' and i dont know what to put in...every cd i put in it says no drivers
[QUOTE=''NSR34GTR'']well i had 64 bit vista ulitmate and after i let it install this i put n the mobo cd
are you talking about sata drivers?[/QUOTE]
So do i connect to the internet then restart my computer then reinstall?
[QUOTE=''Grunge14''][QUOTE=''NSR34GTR'']well i had 64 bit vista ulitmate and after i let it install this i put n the mobo cd are you talking about sata drivers?[/QUOTE] So do i connect to the internet then restart my computer then reinstall?[/QUOTE]
Not for sure if what I am saying is the solution but it might be worth connecting your cables to your modem, the shutting everything down, re-start and install.
In other words I dont think you have to verify that you have a connection other then the router/modem being on and you cable pluged into your card.
You should not need any driver during the installation of Vista, that I am aware of at least.
What all do you have in the PC. Is it possible they are just giving you the option of installing drivers and you can just skip that part?
They wont let me skip, do i need to update my BIOS? bump
[QUOTE=''Grunge14'']They wont let me skip, do i need to update my BIOS? bump[/QUOTE] What about turning the power off. :) If you know for sure your cable is not ''wired'' into your connection to the internet I would turn the power off, plug in those cables and turn it back on. Worst case is that it will start the install from scratch but its likely it will pick up at someplace other then fresh start. I do assume you backed up any personal stuff
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[QUOTE=''SEANMCAD''][QUOTE=''Grunge14'']They wont let me skip, do i need to update my BIOS? bump[/QUOTE] What about turning the power off. :) If you know for sure your cable is not ''wired'' into your connection to the internet I would turn the power off, plug in those cables and turn it back on. Worst case is that it will start the install from scratch but its likely it will pick up at someplace other then fresh start. I do assume you backed up any personal stuff [/QUOTE]
Well its a brand new pc so...i just tried it again...it still says i need to install the drivers...i am not updating BTW...im installing vista for the first time bump
[QUOTE=''Grunge14''][QUOTE=''SEANMCAD''][QUOTE=''Grunge14'']They wont let me skip, do i need to update my BIOS? bump[/QUOTE] What about turning the power off. :) If you know for sure your cable is not ''wired'' into your connection to the internet I would turn the power off, plug in those cables and turn it back on. Worst case is that it will start the install from scratch but its likely it will pick up at someplace other then fresh start. I do assume you backed up any personal stuff [/QUOTE] Well its a brand new pc so...i just tried it again...it still says i need to install the drivers...i am not updating BTW...im installing vista for the first time bump[/QUOTE]
Yeah then I am at a lose I am afraid. All the installs I have done including the machine I built myself didnt ask me this so I assume it pulled what it needed from an online connection,.
bump .....*sigh*
Could you take a picture of the screen, or tell us exactly what it says.
What are your specs?
Heres some pics...sorry theyre kinda small, i took them with my phone
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1947-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1949.jpghttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1950-1.jpghttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1951.jpghttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1952.jpghttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/karim11/12-18-08_1948.jpgwhen i put in my motherboard CD it says ''No device drivers were found. Make sure that the installation media contains the correct drivers. Then click OK.'' bump
OK, that helps, I think, LOL. Kinda hard to tell exactly what I am seeing, but I think it is at the screen asking you to choose what drive to install Vista on. The reason it is asking for drivers, is it figures there is a disk there that it just can't see.
Now I assume you have a HD, and it is hooked up, correct? If it is then you need to check and see if it is recognized in BIOS? Just go into BIOS and see if the HD shows up.
[QUOTE=''opamando'']OK, that helps, I think, LOL. Kinda hard to tell exactly what I am seeing, but I think it is at the screen asking you to choose what drive to install Vista on. The reason it is asking for drivers, is it figures there is a disk there that it just can't see.
Now I assume you have a HD, and it is hooked up, correct? If it is then you need to check and see if it is recognized in BIOS? Just go into BIOS and see if the HD shows up.[/QUOTE]
Yes the HD is hooked up and BIOS reads it.
Hmmm, interesting. You might have to format the HD first. If the drive did not come with any discs you should be able to download it from the manufacturers website.
[QUOTE=''opamando'']Hmmm, interesting. You might have to format the HD first. If the drive did not come with any discs you should be able to download it from the manufacturers website.[/QUOTE]
How am i supposed to format it from the internet if i dont have vista installed on my computer
How are you talking on this forum now, I assume using another PC, maybe not, but thats what I figured. If you are just download it on the other PC, burn it to a disc, or put on a flash drive. If that is not possible, I was doing some looking and it seems on some mobo's you need to switch a certain HD setting from SATA to IDE or something along that line, as all motherboards are different.Also it might help to know the specs.
Processor upgrade question...
I curently have a e6600 at stock speeds but I cannot overclock it due to having a dell 590 sli board. So, I was thinking that upgrading to a e8400 @ 3.0 ghz would be a pretty good improvement and would compliment my gtx 260 core 216. Any opinions any other choices I should make?Processor upgrade question...
If your board (or your wallet) can't swing a high end quad core, then I'd say that's a pretty good idea. You should see a pretty decent boost in performance.Processor upgrade question...
i want to do the same exact thing, for the same exact graphics card, but apparantly my mobo is pretty much maxed out with the processor, with only an e6700 as a step up. I can overclock, but id rather not. Oh well, 1 more year and ill do a whole new build.
[QUOTE=''ankor77'']i want to do the same exact thing, for the same exact graphics card, but apparantly my mobo is pretty much maxed out with the processor, with only an e6700 as a step up. I can overclock, but id rather not. Oh well, 1 more year and ill do a whole new build.[/QUOTE]
Yea do not upgrade to a e6700 thats a waste for you....... however I have a Asus P5E3 up for sale to anyone interested, for $100
I'd gladly buy that mobo from you if I didn't have a BTX case.
it would be an improvement but it wouldn't call it worth the $$$ and you need to make sure your board supports 1333mzh fsb or the e8xxx wont work or q9xxx.
[QUOTE=''BlazinBill557'']I curently have a e6600 at stock speeds but I cannot overclock it due to having a dell 590 sli board. So, I was thinking that upgrading to a e8400 @ 3.0 ghz would be a pretty good improvement and would compliment my gtx 260 core 216. Any opinions any other choices I should make?[/QUOTE]What about a quad core?
[QUOTE=''BlazinBill557'']I'd gladly buy that mobo from you if I didn't have a BTX case.[/QUOTE]
What case do you have, b/c i have a thermaltake armor and it says its btx and it works..... i'll be happy to throw in a thermal take shark case for 25 dollars look it up it, pretty nice case.
Yeah I guess my mobo only supports a 1064 FSB so I guess that e8400 wouldnt work any ways.
[QUOTE=''teddyrob''][QUOTE=''BlazinBill557'']I curently have a e6600 at stock speeds but I cannot overclock it due to having a dell 590 sli board. So, I was thinking that upgrading to a e8400 @ 3.0 ghz would be a pretty good improvement and would compliment my gtx 260 core 216. Any opinions any other choices I should make?[/QUOTE]What about a quad core?[/QUOTE]
Realistically quad cores are no longer useful for gaming. Outdated at best....and I would recommend nothing less than a dual socket solution for any serious gamer. Clearly.
Before you write off your mainboard for over clocking check to see if your processor supports BSEL mods. I applied a bsel mod to my Q6600 on my un-over clockable Dell XPS 420. The processor now runs at 3.0GHz.
E7300 and a new mobo.
I would like to get a new mobo but my form factor is BTX only as I know of, there arent any good BTX mobos out there.
If your board (or your wallet) can't swing a high end quad core, then I'd say that's a pretty good idea. You should see a pretty decent boost in performance.Processor upgrade question...
i want to do the same exact thing, for the same exact graphics card, but apparantly my mobo is pretty much maxed out with the processor, with only an e6700 as a step up. I can overclock, but id rather not. Oh well, 1 more year and ill do a whole new build.
[QUOTE=''ankor77'']i want to do the same exact thing, for the same exact graphics card, but apparantly my mobo is pretty much maxed out with the processor, with only an e6700 as a step up. I can overclock, but id rather not. Oh well, 1 more year and ill do a whole new build.[/QUOTE]
Yea do not upgrade to a e6700 thats a waste for you....... however I have a Asus P5E3 up for sale to anyone interested, for $100
I'd gladly buy that mobo from you if I didn't have a BTX case.
it would be an improvement but it wouldn't call it worth the $$$ and you need to make sure your board supports 1333mzh fsb or the e8xxx wont work or q9xxx.
[QUOTE=''BlazinBill557'']I curently have a e6600 at stock speeds but I cannot overclock it due to having a dell 590 sli board. So, I was thinking that upgrading to a e8400 @ 3.0 ghz would be a pretty good improvement and would compliment my gtx 260 core 216. Any opinions any other choices I should make?[/QUOTE]What about a quad core?
[QUOTE=''BlazinBill557'']I'd gladly buy that mobo from you if I didn't have a BTX case.[/QUOTE]
What case do you have, b/c i have a thermaltake armor and it says its btx and it works..... i'll be happy to throw in a thermal take shark case for 25 dollars look it up it, pretty nice case.
Yeah I guess my mobo only supports a 1064 FSB so I guess that e8400 wouldnt work any ways.
[QUOTE=''teddyrob''][QUOTE=''BlazinBill557'']I curently have a e6600 at stock speeds but I cannot overclock it due to having a dell 590 sli board. So, I was thinking that upgrading to a e8400 @ 3.0 ghz would be a pretty good improvement and would compliment my gtx 260 core 216. Any opinions any other choices I should make?[/QUOTE]What about a quad core?[/QUOTE]
Realistically quad cores are no longer useful for gaming. Outdated at best....and I would recommend nothing less than a dual socket solution for any serious gamer. Clearly.
Before you write off your mainboard for over clocking check to see if your processor supports BSEL mods. I applied a bsel mod to my Q6600 on my un-over clockable Dell XPS 420. The processor now runs at 3.0GHz.
E7300 and a new mobo.
I would like to get a new mobo but my form factor is BTX only as I know of, there arent any good BTX mobos out there.
I just bought a pre-built pc
hi, asus m3a78 board, phenom 9950 with heatsink and fan, 2gb ddr2, 22x lg burner,320 hd, foxconn case with 400 power supply for 476 dollars with shipping included. i have a wired logitech mouse and keyboard, and a 20 inches acer lcd monitor although not true 1080p hd monitor but it still is a nice widescreen monitor with hdcp and dvi and built-in speakers support. do u think this setup is good? i will install windows xp with sp 2. in future when windows 7 out i will buy it for os upgrade. i don't like vista.i don't plan to buy video card because i play some old games like warcraft, counterstrike:source and some flash online games. Onboard sound is 8 channel which is enough for me. I just bought a pre-built pc
^You buy a pc with a descent cpu etc but no video card besides onboard? Not to smart, you can buy a 8600gt for $50 and be able to play CSS,Warcraft and most games all on high settings better than you can with a 20 inch screen with onboard video.I just bought a pre-built pc
[QUOTE=''04dcarraher'']^You buy a pc with a descent cpu etc but no video card besides onboard? Not to smart, you can buy a 8600gt for $50 and be able to play CSS,Warcraft and most games all on high settings better than you can with a 20 inch screen with onboard video.[/QUOTE]
True,or just get an 8400gs for about $35 on newegg,should run those games fairly ok.
lol 8400gS ? is inferrior to 7300GS :D = Waste of money it nearly it :P and 8500GT Is well like 50% better But Again suck
7600GT = 8600GT = Weak For money but work : 8800Gt = Three Time 7600GT Overclocked = strong
[QUOTE=''darx55''][QUOTE=''04dcarraher'']^You buy a pc with a descent cpu etc but no video card besides onboard? Not to smart, you can buy a 8600gt for $50 and be able to play CSS,Warcraft and most games all on high settings better than you can with a 20 inch screen with onboard video.[/QUOTE]
True,or just get an 8400gs for about $35 on newegg,should run those games fairly ok.[/QUOTE]
no that card is junk and a waste of $$$ for anything apart from watching videos
Well, why not just spend a few extra bucks. I know, not everyone can just do that. But if possible. Get an 8800GT or something. Performs very well and is still a decent card and doesn't cost very much at all :)
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']lol 8400gS ? is inferrior to 7300GS :D = Waste of money it nearly it :P and 8500GT Is well like 50% better But Again suck
7600GT = 8600GT = Weak For money but work : 8800Gt = Three Time 7600GT Overclocked = strong[/QUOTE] I dont understand your crazy voodoo maths...but Ok lol
iv mean 8600GT = 7600GT performances and 8800Gt = The power of Three 8600GT which is not 3x time the price as well :D so no need to Tri-sli 8600GT To get the performances of a single 8800GT
The 8600Gt is faster than a 7600gt after the driver updates alot of those old benches are outdated now. But your right the 8800gt is about 3x faster than a 8600gt.
ins't the 8800gt discountuined you might have 2 end up getting 9800gt or 9600gt/gso if u buy from a high end store
^You buy a pc with a descent cpu etc but no video card besides onboard? Not to smart, you can buy a 8600gt for $50 and be able to play CSS,Warcraft and most games all on high settings better than you can with a 20 inch screen with onboard video.I just bought a pre-built pc
[QUOTE=''04dcarraher'']^You buy a pc with a descent cpu etc but no video card besides onboard? Not to smart, you can buy a 8600gt for $50 and be able to play CSS,Warcraft and most games all on high settings better than you can with a 20 inch screen with onboard video.[/QUOTE]
True,or just get an 8400gs for about $35 on newegg,should run those games fairly ok.
lol 8400gS ? is inferrior to 7300GS :D = Waste of money it nearly it :P and 8500GT Is well like 50% better But Again suck
7600GT = 8600GT = Weak For money but work : 8800Gt = Three Time 7600GT Overclocked = strong
[QUOTE=''darx55''][QUOTE=''04dcarraher'']^You buy a pc with a descent cpu etc but no video card besides onboard? Not to smart, you can buy a 8600gt for $50 and be able to play CSS,Warcraft and most games all on high settings better than you can with a 20 inch screen with onboard video.[/QUOTE]
True,or just get an 8400gs for about $35 on newegg,should run those games fairly ok.[/QUOTE]
no that card is junk and a waste of $$$ for anything apart from watching videos
Well, why not just spend a few extra bucks. I know, not everyone can just do that. But if possible. Get an 8800GT or something. Performs very well and is still a decent card and doesn't cost very much at all :)
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']lol 8400gS ? is inferrior to 7300GS :D = Waste of money it nearly it :P and 8500GT Is well like 50% better But Again suck
7600GT = 8600GT = Weak For money but work : 8800Gt = Three Time 7600GT Overclocked = strong[/QUOTE] I dont understand your crazy voodoo maths...but Ok lol
iv mean 8600GT = 7600GT performances and 8800Gt = The power of Three 8600GT which is not 3x time the price as well :D so no need to Tri-sli 8600GT To get the performances of a single 8800GT
The 8600Gt is faster than a 7600gt after the driver updates alot of those old benches are outdated now. But your right the 8800gt is about 3x faster than a 8600gt.
ins't the 8800gt discountuined you might have 2 end up getting 9800gt or 9600gt/gso if u buy from a high end store
Lime wire and cookies question
Can lime wire install cookies on your computer to websites that you have not visited?
i had a room mate that was using a back up computer of mine and i find some sick websites in the internet history. he says its lime wire and it put all those websites in the internet history. I say BS, what do you think?Lime wire and cookies questionLimewire has a built-in browser, but that thing only goes to the starting site. The program is fairly safe; it's just what you do with it. So of course, your roommate is lying to you.
is the E4500 good for gaming?
I have a Intel D945GCL, and currently, i can only buy a E4500. All i need to know if it is good for gaming (and multitasking) and if so, which current games (crysis, gears, etc) will work smoothly with it.is the E4500 good for gaming?
Its sufficient enough, its not great but it will do. is the E4500 good for gaming?
[QUOTE=''_HMN_'']I have a Intel D945GCL, and currently, i can only buy a E4500. All i need to know if it is good for gaming (and multitasking) and if so, which current games (crysis, gears, etc) will work smoothly with it.[/QUOTE]The only game I think it may trouble it is GTAIV. The rest of the games it should be fine as long as your Graphics card is adequate.
You can use E6700,e6600,e6400,e6300,e4700,e4600,e4500 etctells you herehttp://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=d945gclyou will also need 0032 bios version to run it.
ok, thanks!
overclock it or get another one...
if i get the e4500, will i be able to overclock it with the Intel D945GCL mobo?
My E2160 is fine for gaming so you should have no problems :D I have oc'ed the sh!t out of it to 3Ghz though :lol: but it's always my GPU which lets me down when it comes to games (8800GTS 320Mb) My ?0 CPU is still going strong. I'll get a Quad when it starts stuggling to keep up
[QUOTE=''GTR2addict'']overclock it or get another one...[/QUOTE]
^ Yep!
[QUOTE=''_HMN_'']if i get the e4500, will i be able to overclock it with the Intel D945GCL mobo?[/QUOTE]
Well, can i?
can i overclock it with my mobo?
will it ''bottleneck'' with the geforce 9800gt?
Its sufficient enough, its not great but it will do. is the E4500 good for gaming?
[QUOTE=''_HMN_'']I have a Intel D945GCL, and currently, i can only buy a E4500. All i need to know if it is good for gaming (and multitasking) and if so, which current games (crysis, gears, etc) will work smoothly with it.[/QUOTE]The only game I think it may trouble it is GTAIV. The rest of the games it should be fine as long as your Graphics card is adequate.
You can use E6700,e6600,e6400,e6300,e4700,e4600,e4500 etctells you herehttp://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=d945gclyou will also need 0032 bios version to run it.
ok, thanks!
overclock it or get another one...
if i get the e4500, will i be able to overclock it with the Intel D945GCL mobo?
My E2160 is fine for gaming so you should have no problems :D I have oc'ed the sh!t out of it to 3Ghz though :lol: but it's always my GPU which lets me down when it comes to games (8800GTS 320Mb) My ?0 CPU is still going strong. I'll get a Quad when it starts stuggling to keep up
[QUOTE=''GTR2addict'']overclock it or get another one...[/QUOTE]
^ Yep!
[QUOTE=''_HMN_'']if i get the e4500, will i be able to overclock it with the Intel D945GCL mobo?[/QUOTE]
Well, can i?
can i overclock it with my mobo?
will it ''bottleneck'' with the geforce 9800gt?
High or Low Profile Keyboard?
Just was a little curuius since right now im typing a paper for school and I decided to do it on my mom's laptop intead of my rig because I personaly don't like the high profile keys on the gaming keyobard I have and I seem to type faster on the low keys of my mom's Toshiba notebook.
XFX 260 Black Edition Crysis Question
Hi, I'm considering getting this card along with a quad core processor. I was wondering if my resolution will be 1440x900 if i'll be able to run crysis on very high smoothly or not? Any help would be great. Also if you own the card, what has been your experience with it? XFX 260 Black Edition Crysis Question
Yes you would, but I think your system may be too much to game at 1440x900. So I wouldn't recommend getting such a powerful card and processor unless you plan on upgrading your monitor. But it's up to you.XFX 260 Black Edition Crysis Question
What do you mean? Does it effect the system at all?
No, your monitor won't affect your system. But a 260GTX may be a more powerful card then you need. I think the 260GTX would be more useful when gaming in 1900x1200 and up. But like I said it's up to you.
I'll upgrade it eventually. For now its fine though. Do you own this card? I've heard mixed things about xfx as a manf.
I don't have the card but I think xfx is a pretty good manufacturer. I also hear a lot of positive comments about EVGA.
It may be good to get a GTX 260 anyways because if you get a larger monitor in the future you want to be able to use it to the fullest.
yes I probabily will upgrade it eventually. Besides I won't have to upgrade the gpu for awhile =D
I'm currently building a new rig because my wife's taking the one in my sig for herself if but I've acquired two of them and already tested them on the rig in my sig. They are very good cards, great performance and overclocking ability, my only problem is they run in the 70C range and sometimes into the 80C range after a fair while of gaming but other then that they are great cards.
[QUOTE=''teh_VU'']I don't have the card but I think xfx is a pretty good manufacturer. I also hear a lot of positive comments about EVGA.[/QUOTE]
yes, evga is great thats what i have, but xfx is also a very good maufacturer, idk why your two cards are getting up to 70 or 80c, you must have the fan speed on ''auto'' which is nvidia's way of saying ''always 40%'' so ya, download evga precision, it works for all nvidia products, and it is so simple to use, just up the fan speed to 70 or 80% and you'll be fine, they will play anything on any setting at pretty much any resolution, they are worth it!
[QUOTE=''wolfdogelite''][QUOTE=''teh_VU'']I idk why your two cards are getting up to 70 or 80c, you must have the fan speed on ''auto'' which is nvidia's way of saying ''always 40%'' so ya, download evga precision, it works for all nvidia products, and it is so simple to use, just up the fan speed to 70 or 80% and you'll be fine, they will play anything on any setting at pretty much any resolution, they are worth it![/QUOTE]
Nah I normally water cool my rigs, just not use to hardware with high temps :P
Once they are water cooled they'll drop down in the 40C range.
am playing it at 1650 , with 4X AA , all high , and getting around 25-40 Fps , i hoped for more
[QUOTE=''sentenced83'']am playing it at 1650 , with 4X AA , all high , and getting around 25-40 Fps , i hoped for more [/QUOTE]
dont count off your poor performance on the card, i think that your cpu is holdig you back, i had the gtx 260 and i played @ 1920x1080, maxed settings, all very high, and i got a steady 25 fps, maybe down to 20 in big fire-fights, but i have the e8400 and i overclocked it to 3.4ghz at the timethis works
Yes you would, but I think your system may be too much to game at 1440x900. So I wouldn't recommend getting such a powerful card and processor unless you plan on upgrading your monitor. But it's up to you.XFX 260 Black Edition Crysis Question
What do you mean? Does it effect the system at all?
No, your monitor won't affect your system. But a 260GTX may be a more powerful card then you need. I think the 260GTX would be more useful when gaming in 1900x1200 and up. But like I said it's up to you.
I'll upgrade it eventually. For now its fine though. Do you own this card? I've heard mixed things about xfx as a manf.
I don't have the card but I think xfx is a pretty good manufacturer. I also hear a lot of positive comments about EVGA.
It may be good to get a GTX 260 anyways because if you get a larger monitor in the future you want to be able to use it to the fullest.
yes I probabily will upgrade it eventually. Besides I won't have to upgrade the gpu for awhile =D
I'm currently building a new rig because my wife's taking the one in my sig for herself if but I've acquired two of them and already tested them on the rig in my sig. They are very good cards, great performance and overclocking ability, my only problem is they run in the 70C range and sometimes into the 80C range after a fair while of gaming but other then that they are great cards.
[QUOTE=''teh_VU'']I don't have the card but I think xfx is a pretty good manufacturer. I also hear a lot of positive comments about EVGA.[/QUOTE]
yes, evga is great thats what i have, but xfx is also a very good maufacturer, idk why your two cards are getting up to 70 or 80c, you must have the fan speed on ''auto'' which is nvidia's way of saying ''always 40%'' so ya, download evga precision, it works for all nvidia products, and it is so simple to use, just up the fan speed to 70 or 80% and you'll be fine, they will play anything on any setting at pretty much any resolution, they are worth it!
[QUOTE=''wolfdogelite''][QUOTE=''teh_VU'']I idk why your two cards are getting up to 70 or 80c, you must have the fan speed on ''auto'' which is nvidia's way of saying ''always 40%'' so ya, download evga precision, it works for all nvidia products, and it is so simple to use, just up the fan speed to 70 or 80% and you'll be fine, they will play anything on any setting at pretty much any resolution, they are worth it![/QUOTE]
Nah I normally water cool my rigs, just not use to hardware with high temps :P
Once they are water cooled they'll drop down in the 40C range.
am playing it at 1650 , with 4X AA , all high , and getting around 25-40 Fps , i hoped for more
[QUOTE=''sentenced83'']am playing it at 1650 , with 4X AA , all high , and getting around 25-40 Fps , i hoped for more [/QUOTE]
dont count off your poor performance on the card, i think that your cpu is holdig you back, i had the gtx 260 and i played @ 1920x1080, maxed settings, all very high, and i got a steady 25 fps, maybe down to 20 in big fire-fights, but i have the e8400 and i overclocked it to 3.4ghz at the time
PRODUCT SEARCH: Need a GOOD USB Bridge.
I will lay out the problem as concise as I can. I am planning to travel abroad, and I am intending to take my 30GB HDD camcorder with me. Now, this camcorder does its best work in its Ultra quality mode, but at 30GB I can only squeeze in about 7 hours of footage in the camera before I have to offload.BUT, I'm trying to avoid taking a laptop with me. I don't have much use for it in my trip, and it's a bit of a ''hot'' item in travel, if you get my drift. Not to mention it's bulky and I lack a suitable travel adapter for it (its standard power block is three-pronged: USA only). What I am looking for, then, is a good USB Bridge--a device that will allow me to connect the camera (USB2) on one end, a USB hard drive into another port, and then offload the works former-to-latter.That said, I have done some research and have determined that the device I need will need the following qualifications:
- The device must come with an AC adapter capable of running off of 240V (my destination country is the Philippines--they use two-pronged plugs much like the US but use a 240V/60Hz AC cycle). This is because of the size of the data transfers involved (up to 30GB). Such transfers are likely to wipe out battery-only devices before they finish.
- It must work with a Panasonic SDR-H18 camcorder and either a WD, Maxtor, or SimpleTech externally-powered USB hard drive. Though all of the above qualify as Mass Storage Devices, I've noted that many of the ones popularly on the market are finnicky and may not see all devices equally. Also, some of the devices balk at big files (which would be expected from a camcorder).
Help needed on picking a monitor
If you do go with a monitor I recommend a 22'' LG widescreen. I got mine from Circuit City for $240 (It was on sale). Help needed on picking a monitor
one of these 2http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009125
one of these 2http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009125
Plz name Games that can run on MED/MAX settings on 6200 turbocache?
fps....modern action adeventure...shooters...are more preffered...guyz plzz i really need ur input in thiss..!Plz name Games that can run on MED/MAX settings on 6200 turbocache?
Modern....Im not sure what would run at MEDIUM on that thing.Plz name Games that can run on MED/MAX settings on 6200 turbocache?
Games made before 2004.
doom
Homeworld SeriesFreelancerFreespace 2IL2
Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy.. Return to Castle Wolfenstein, nothing made after 2004 really. For 40-50 bucks you could get something that would run games much better.
Probably everything older than Half-Life 2, not inclusive of course.
half life 2
doom 3
call of duty 2
oblivion
far cry
left 4 dead does support sm 2.0
[QUOTE=''kemar7856'']half life 2
doom 3
call of duty 2
oblivion
far cry
left 4 dead does support sm 2.0[/QUOTE]Hell no
Modern....Im not sure what would run at MEDIUM on that thing.Plz name Games that can run on MED/MAX settings on 6200 turbocache?
Games made before 2004.
doom
Homeworld SeriesFreelancerFreespace 2IL2
Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy.. Return to Castle Wolfenstein, nothing made after 2004 really. For 40-50 bucks you could get something that would run games much better.
Probably everything older than Half-Life 2, not inclusive of course.
half life 2
doom 3
call of duty 2
oblivion
far cry
left 4 dead does support sm 2.0
[QUOTE=''kemar7856'']half life 2
doom 3
call of duty 2
oblivion
far cry
left 4 dead does support sm 2.0[/QUOTE]Hell no
Nvidia And Intel Launch Ion Platform
''NVIDIA is poised to energize the PC market by transforming Atom PCs into a premium experience found today in higher priced laptops and desktops. NVIDIA will supercharge the fastest-growing segments of the PC market - netbooks, small form factor and all-in-one PCs - by enabling these products to play rich media and popular games in high definition. At the same time, the Ion Platform will create new and exciting premium PCs that fit in the palm of your hand.
The formula is simple: Combine the highly rated GeForce 9400 GPU found in new desktop and notebook PCs with the Intel Atom CPU. This combination (code-named Ion Platform) enables the smallest premium PC experience available today, making it ideal for the exploding category of mini-notebooks and compact PCs.
Unlike existing chipsets paired with the Atom CPU, the GeForce 9400 GPU delivers up to ten times the graphics performance, plays full-spec 1080p high definition video, supports the full Windows Vista user interface and the upcoming Windows 7, and runs popular PC games such as Call of Duty 4. The GeForce 9400 GPU does all of this in about one-half of the space of today's Atom CPU-based solutions with minimal affect on battery life.
''Until now, a high definition affordable PC was an oxymoron,'' said Drew Henry, general manager of the MCP business unit at NVIDIA. ''The Ion Platform pairs the GeForce 9400 with a truly great Intel Atom CPU and lets consumers surf the Internet, play top games, edit photos, and watch videos all in high definition. This will really energize the PC market in 2009!''
''NVIDIA's Ion Platform transforms Atom-based PCs into capable mainstream gaming platforms,'' said Mark Rein, vice president of Epic Games. ''Epic is excited about the growth potential offered by these new affordable premium PCs.''
''Spore looks and runs great with netbook and nettop PCs featuring GeForce GPUs and Atom CPUs,'' said Lucy Bradshaw, executive producer, Spore. ''Gamers will be impressed with the Ion platform's power and portability.''
''Netbooks have exploded onto to the scene, and we are excited that netbook users can now experience full Blu-Ray playback in the smallest form factors with a GeForce 9400 and Intel Atom CPU with the CyberLink PowerDVD player,'' said Alice H. Chang, CEO of CyberLink Corp.''All I can say its little, heres some pics...![]()
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Nvidia And Intel Launch Ion Platform
That little thing is awesome. Nothing that I personally need, but awesome anyways.Nvidia And Intel Launch Ion Platform
watching video or playing games on a 8.9-10inch screen is kinda pointless (15.4po is really the minimum for me) and I bet this little addition will remove the main advantage of these netbook, the battery time. This will really energize the PC market in 2009! - lol at this.
The formula is simple: Combine the highly rated GeForce 9400 GPU found in new desktop and notebook PCs with the Intel Atom CPU. This combination (code-named Ion Platform) enables the smallest premium PC experience available today, making it ideal for the exploding category of mini-notebooks and compact PCs.
Unlike existing chipsets paired with the Atom CPU, the GeForce 9400 GPU delivers up to ten times the graphics performance, plays full-spec 1080p high definition video, supports the full Windows Vista user interface and the upcoming Windows 7, and runs popular PC games such as Call of Duty 4. The GeForce 9400 GPU does all of this in about one-half of the space of today's Atom CPU-based solutions with minimal affect on battery life.
''Until now, a high definition affordable PC was an oxymoron,'' said Drew Henry, general manager of the MCP business unit at NVIDIA. ''The Ion Platform pairs the GeForce 9400 with a truly great Intel Atom CPU and lets consumers surf the Internet, play top games, edit photos, and watch videos all in high definition. This will really energize the PC market in 2009!''
''NVIDIA's Ion Platform transforms Atom-based PCs into capable mainstream gaming platforms,'' said Mark Rein, vice president of Epic Games. ''Epic is excited about the growth potential offered by these new affordable premium PCs.''
''Spore looks and runs great with netbook and nettop PCs featuring GeForce GPUs and Atom CPUs,'' said Lucy Bradshaw, executive producer, Spore. ''Gamers will be impressed with the Ion platform's power and portability.''
''Netbooks have exploded onto to the scene, and we are excited that netbook users can now experience full Blu-Ray playback in the smallest form factors with a GeForce 9400 and Intel Atom CPU with the CyberLink PowerDVD player,'' said Alice H. Chang, CEO of CyberLink Corp.''All I can say its little, heres some pics...
That little thing is awesome. Nothing that I personally need, but awesome anyways.Nvidia And Intel Launch Ion Platform
watching video or playing games on a 8.9-10inch screen is kinda pointless (15.4po is really the minimum for me) and I bet this little addition will remove the main advantage of these netbook, the battery time. This will really energize the PC market in 2009! - lol at this.
Building a higher-end gaming computer for under $1k
Starting over from scratch here as my last system was pretty dated. How's this setup look? Open to any suggestions. I'm looking to keep the total cost close to $1,000.
Video --- $264.99 (+$45 MIR)
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Video Card
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130370)
Memory --- $48.99
Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Memory
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148212)
Processor --- $189.99
Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2x4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
Motherboard --- $129.99 (+$15 MIR)
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131299)
Power Supply --- $119.99 (+$20 MIR)
CORSAIR 750W ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006)
Hard Drive --- $229.99 (+$30 MIR)
Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB 10k RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136260)
Case --- $49.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068)
OS --- $99.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488)
Sub-total: $1,133.92 (+ $110 MIRs)
Total: $1,023.92Building a higher-end gaming computer for under $1k
for $28 more I would go with the core 216 gtx 260:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130398 They both come with far cry 2 also.And what about a CPU heatsink? your not planning on using the stock intel one are you? Building a higher-end gaming computer for under $1k
I've never had a processor that needed a heatsink before. What would you suggest?
The stock heatsink is fine if you don't plan to overclock. If noise is a concern, your video card will most likely generate much more noice than the CPU fan.I do not recommend a velociraptor drive. You will get much, much better performance out of two regular drives in RAID than from a single velociraptor drive. For nearly the same price you can buy two 1 TB drives and RAID them. Unless you plan to purchase two velociraptor drives in RAID, then it's a waste of money.
You forgot the DvD burner, Also thats a pretty expensive harddrive, considering you can get a 7200rpm for 1/4 of the price.
Change the mobo to thishttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128359 I would acctually get a e8500/e8400 over a q6600.
Thanks for all the replies. I already have a good DVD-RW drive, so I won't be needing one of those.
I've upgraded the video card, changed to a different HD, downgraded the power supply to 650W, and have added a heatsink.
I'm not familiar with RAID, is that similar to having dual video cards, but working together to speed up HD performance?
And I do plan on OCing my processor.
Video $247.99
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 Gore 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Video Card
Memory $48.99
Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Memory
Processor $189.99
Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2x4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
Motherboard $114.99
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
Power Supply $79.99 (+$20 MIR)
CORSAIR 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Hard Drive $84.99
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Case $49.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
OS $99.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD
Heatsink $27.99
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
Total: $944.91
Yes. RAID splits the data across two (or more hard drives). You effectively get double the reading and writing speeds. While Velociraptor drives are nice, they are only about a 50% increase in RPM speed, and will still suffer issues of seek time, latency, and SATA bandwitdh common to single drives. RAIDed drives suffer from these issues a lot less easily giving you an %80 to as much as a %150 boost in speed.The results are even more impressive when you RAID high performance drives like the raptors. Thats why i think its pointless to buy just a single raptoor except under very special circumstances.
Hmm... so I should probably opt for a couple of 250GB drives, then, rather than the one I currently have chosen.My computer knowledge is seriously dated. I have not kept up with recent advances, and really don't know whether, as one poster said, to go for a higher-end dual core processor such as the E8500, or a new quad core. I've heard that quad cores aren't fully utilized yet, but also that they are going to soon make dual cores obsolete. Any other opinions on this?
[QUOTE=''AKspartan18'']Hmm... so I should probably opt for a couple of 250GB drives, then, rather than the one I currently have chosen.My computer knowledge is seriously dated. I have not kept up with recent advances, and really don't know whether, as one poster said, to go for a higher-end dual core processor such as the E8500, or a new quad core. I've heard that quad cores aren't fully utilized yet, but also that they are going to soon make dual cores obsolete. Any other opinions on this? [/QUOTE]In my opinion if your going to buy this computer and not upgrade it for 3+ years or something then go for the slower quad. If youre going to buy it and upgrade once in a while go for the faster duo.
[QUOTE=''glez13''][QUOTE=''AKspartan18'']Hmm... so I should probably opt for a couple of 250GB drives, then, rather than the one I currently have chosen.My computer knowledge is seriously dated. I have not kept up with recent advances, and really don't know whether, as one poster said, to go for a higher-end dual core processor such as the E8500, or a new quad core. I've heard that quad cores aren't fully utilized yet, but also that they are going to soon make dual cores obsolete. Any other opinions on this? [/QUOTE]In my opinion if your going to buy this computer and not upgrade it for 5+ years then go for the slower quad. If youre going to buy it and upgrade once in a while go for the faster duo. [/QUOTE]
I agree, even though I go with telling ppl dual core about 90% of the time.
Video --- $264.99 (+$45 MIR)
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Video Card
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130370)
Memory --- $48.99
Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Memory
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148212)
Processor --- $189.99
Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2x4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
Motherboard --- $129.99 (+$15 MIR)
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131299)
Power Supply --- $119.99 (+$20 MIR)
CORSAIR 750W ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006)
Hard Drive --- $229.99 (+$30 MIR)
Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB 10k RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136260)
Case --- $49.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068)
OS --- $99.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488)
Sub-total: $1,133.92 (+ $110 MIRs)
Total: $1,023.92Building a higher-end gaming computer for under $1k
for $28 more I would go with the core 216 gtx 260:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130398 They both come with far cry 2 also.And what about a CPU heatsink? your not planning on using the stock intel one are you? Building a higher-end gaming computer for under $1k
I've never had a processor that needed a heatsink before. What would you suggest?
The stock heatsink is fine if you don't plan to overclock. If noise is a concern, your video card will most likely generate much more noice than the CPU fan.I do not recommend a velociraptor drive. You will get much, much better performance out of two regular drives in RAID than from a single velociraptor drive. For nearly the same price you can buy two 1 TB drives and RAID them. Unless you plan to purchase two velociraptor drives in RAID, then it's a waste of money.
You forgot the DvD burner, Also thats a pretty expensive harddrive, considering you can get a 7200rpm for 1/4 of the price.
Change the mobo to thishttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128359 I would acctually get a e8500/e8400 over a q6600.
Thanks for all the replies. I already have a good DVD-RW drive, so I won't be needing one of those.
I've upgraded the video card, changed to a different HD, downgraded the power supply to 650W, and have added a heatsink.
I'm not familiar with RAID, is that similar to having dual video cards, but working together to speed up HD performance?
And I do plan on OCing my processor.
Video $247.99
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 Gore 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Video Card
Memory $48.99
Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Memory
Processor $189.99
Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2x4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
Motherboard $114.99
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
Power Supply $79.99 (+$20 MIR)
CORSAIR 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Hard Drive $84.99
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Case $49.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
OS $99.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD
Heatsink $27.99
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
Total: $944.91
Yes. RAID splits the data across two (or more hard drives). You effectively get double the reading and writing speeds. While Velociraptor drives are nice, they are only about a 50% increase in RPM speed, and will still suffer issues of seek time, latency, and SATA bandwitdh common to single drives. RAIDed drives suffer from these issues a lot less easily giving you an %80 to as much as a %150 boost in speed.The results are even more impressive when you RAID high performance drives like the raptors. Thats why i think its pointless to buy just a single raptoor except under very special circumstances.
Hmm... so I should probably opt for a couple of 250GB drives, then, rather than the one I currently have chosen.My computer knowledge is seriously dated. I have not kept up with recent advances, and really don't know whether, as one poster said, to go for a higher-end dual core processor such as the E8500, or a new quad core. I've heard that quad cores aren't fully utilized yet, but also that they are going to soon make dual cores obsolete. Any other opinions on this?
[QUOTE=''AKspartan18'']Hmm... so I should probably opt for a couple of 250GB drives, then, rather than the one I currently have chosen.My computer knowledge is seriously dated. I have not kept up with recent advances, and really don't know whether, as one poster said, to go for a higher-end dual core processor such as the E8500, or a new quad core. I've heard that quad cores aren't fully utilized yet, but also that they are going to soon make dual cores obsolete. Any other opinions on this? [/QUOTE]In my opinion if your going to buy this computer and not upgrade it for 3+ years or something then go for the slower quad. If youre going to buy it and upgrade once in a while go for the faster duo.
[QUOTE=''glez13''][QUOTE=''AKspartan18'']Hmm... so I should probably opt for a couple of 250GB drives, then, rather than the one I currently have chosen.My computer knowledge is seriously dated. I have not kept up with recent advances, and really don't know whether, as one poster said, to go for a higher-end dual core processor such as the E8500, or a new quad core. I've heard that quad cores aren't fully utilized yet, but also that they are going to soon make dual cores obsolete. Any other opinions on this? [/QUOTE]In my opinion if your going to buy this computer and not upgrade it for 5+ years then go for the slower quad. If youre going to buy it and upgrade once in a while go for the faster duo. [/QUOTE]
I agree, even though I go with telling ppl dual core about 90% of the time.
Finaly a real Review for GTX295!
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/12/18/first-look-nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-1792mb/4That's exaclty what I was expecting... but i'm sure we'll see a boost somewhere with new patches. Finaly a real Review for GTX295!
Nice, thanks for the post.Finaly a real Review for GTX295!
Can not wait to get my hands on it. :roll:
Not a review but a preview.
There are only 5 games that Nvidia will let reviewers post benches of...
Is the GTX295 a dual-GPU card?
/drools
For test drivers on a card that thing is doing wicked @_@ so might think about grabbing one when official benchmarks and final release results are in, tri sli that with the current 260 black edition I have and the results would be all kinds of awesome :D
[QUOTE=''CityOfShips'']Is the GTX295 a dual-GPU card?[/QUOTE]
Yeah like the 9800GX2
[QUOTE=''Zenkuso'']/drools For test drivers on a card that thing is doing wicked @_@ so might think about grabbing one when official benchmarks and final release results are in, tri sli that with the current 260 black edition I have and the results would be all kinds of awesome :D[/QUOTE]Test drivers? Almost all Nvidia drivers are ''test'' drivers.
You cannot SLI a GTX295 with anything else other than a GTX295.
[QUOTE=''Zenkuso''][QUOTE=''CityOfShips'']Is the GTX295 a dual-GPU card?[/QUOTE] Yeah like the 9800GX2[/QUOTE]So I assume they made this card micro-studdering proof or something or is that only the 9800GX2?
[QUOTE=''LordEC911''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso'']/drools For test drivers on a card that thing is doing wicked @_@ so might think about grabbing one when official benchmarks and final release results are in, tri sli that with the current 260 black edition I have and the results would be all kinds of awesome :D[/QUOTE]Test drivers? Almost all Nvidia drivers are ''test'' drivers.
You cannot SLI a GTX295 with anything else other than a GTX295.[/QUOTE] Guess we are still waiting for the hydra's release, guess nvidia isn't thinking again, block our ability to sli with older cards :( And you know what I mean when I say test drivers, not final product release drivers :P http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU5OSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==H also has a preview up.
[QUOTE=''CityOfShips''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso''][QUOTE=''CityOfShips'']Is the GTX295 a dual-GPU card?[/QUOTE] Yeah like the 9800GX2[/QUOTE]So I assume they made this card micro-studdering proof or something or is that only the 9800GX2? [/QUOTE]
All cards dual cards have micro stuttering problems. even the 4870x2
[QUOTE=''CityOfShips''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso''][QUOTE=''CityOfShips'']Is the GTX295 a dual-GPU card?[/QUOTE] Yeah like the 9800GX2[/QUOTE]So I assume they made this card micro-studdering proof or something or is that only the 9800GX2? [/QUOTE]
I wouldn't have a clue, I remember the 9800GX2 had heck of a lot of problems with micro-shuttering and that was mostly because of memory bandwidth limitations on the card, it could be the same with this card who knows at this point we'll just have to wait and see at this point in time.
[QUOTE=''millerlight89''][QUOTE=''CityOfShips''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso''] Yeah like the 9800GX2[/QUOTE]So I assume they made this card micro-studdering proof or something or is that only the 9800GX2? [/QUOTE] All cards dual cards have micro stuttering problems. even the 4870x2[/QUOTE]It must not be bad on this card.I wonder how much power this card uses?:P
I really am not a fan of the whole two cards on one board theory... nor am I a fan of SLI or Crossfire. I feel much nor comfortable with a single GPU high-end solution. There is really no point to invest into these cards when the GTX300 series will be here in Summer. Also, don't you guys think that Nvidia kinda IDK stinks and the whole dual card solutions. While they make some killer high end single card solutions. I believe they should leave the X2 format with ATI, they seem to have more luck....... or skill.
i'll save my money I guess the older cards prices will drop after this if I have money i'll get a 9800gtxx2 or 280
[QUOTE=''Zenkuso''][QUOTE=''LordEC911''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso'']So I assume they made this card micro-studdering proof or something or is that only the 9800GX2? [/QUOTE] All cards dual cards have micro stuttering problems. even the 4870x2[/QUOTE]It must not be bad on this card.I wonder how much power this card uses?:P [/QUOTE]
289 watts. http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/
[QUOTE=''GuitarFreak2''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso''][QUOTE=''LordEC911''] All cards dual cards have micro stuttering problems. even the 4870x2[/QUOTE]It must not be bad on this card.I wonder how much power this card uses?:P [/QUOTE] 289 watts. http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/[/QUOTE] Quoted the wrong person there buddy :P I already know how much it uses, it was speculated in most other previews of the card.
Finally an actual reveiw that amkes sens eand it looks like its going to be an outstanding card, props to nvidia this time i surprised the 4870x2 and 295 are neck to nvidia takes it by 3-4 fps but that doenst bother me ;)this works
Nice, thanks for the post.Finaly a real Review for GTX295!
Can not wait to get my hands on it. :roll:
Not a review but a preview.
There are only 5 games that Nvidia will let reviewers post benches of...
Is the GTX295 a dual-GPU card?
/drools
For test drivers on a card that thing is doing wicked @_@ so might think about grabbing one when official benchmarks and final release results are in, tri sli that with the current 260 black edition I have and the results would be all kinds of awesome :D
[QUOTE=''CityOfShips'']Is the GTX295 a dual-GPU card?[/QUOTE]
Yeah like the 9800GX2
[QUOTE=''Zenkuso'']/drools For test drivers on a card that thing is doing wicked @_@ so might think about grabbing one when official benchmarks and final release results are in, tri sli that with the current 260 black edition I have and the results would be all kinds of awesome :D[/QUOTE]Test drivers? Almost all Nvidia drivers are ''test'' drivers.
You cannot SLI a GTX295 with anything else other than a GTX295.
[QUOTE=''Zenkuso''][QUOTE=''CityOfShips'']Is the GTX295 a dual-GPU card?[/QUOTE] Yeah like the 9800GX2[/QUOTE]So I assume they made this card micro-studdering proof or something or is that only the 9800GX2?
[QUOTE=''LordEC911''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso'']/drools For test drivers on a card that thing is doing wicked @_@ so might think about grabbing one when official benchmarks and final release results are in, tri sli that with the current 260 black edition I have and the results would be all kinds of awesome :D[/QUOTE]Test drivers? Almost all Nvidia drivers are ''test'' drivers.
You cannot SLI a GTX295 with anything else other than a GTX295.[/QUOTE] Guess we are still waiting for the hydra's release, guess nvidia isn't thinking again, block our ability to sli with older cards :( And you know what I mean when I say test drivers, not final product release drivers :P http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU5OSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==H also has a preview up.
[QUOTE=''CityOfShips''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso''][QUOTE=''CityOfShips'']Is the GTX295 a dual-GPU card?[/QUOTE] Yeah like the 9800GX2[/QUOTE]So I assume they made this card micro-studdering proof or something or is that only the 9800GX2? [/QUOTE]
All cards dual cards have micro stuttering problems. even the 4870x2
[QUOTE=''CityOfShips''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso''][QUOTE=''CityOfShips'']Is the GTX295 a dual-GPU card?[/QUOTE] Yeah like the 9800GX2[/QUOTE]So I assume they made this card micro-studdering proof or something or is that only the 9800GX2? [/QUOTE]
I wouldn't have a clue, I remember the 9800GX2 had heck of a lot of problems with micro-shuttering and that was mostly because of memory bandwidth limitations on the card, it could be the same with this card who knows at this point we'll just have to wait and see at this point in time.
[QUOTE=''millerlight89''][QUOTE=''CityOfShips''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso''] Yeah like the 9800GX2[/QUOTE]So I assume they made this card micro-studdering proof or something or is that only the 9800GX2? [/QUOTE] All cards dual cards have micro stuttering problems. even the 4870x2[/QUOTE]It must not be bad on this card.I wonder how much power this card uses?:P
I really am not a fan of the whole two cards on one board theory... nor am I a fan of SLI or Crossfire. I feel much nor comfortable with a single GPU high-end solution. There is really no point to invest into these cards when the GTX300 series will be here in Summer. Also, don't you guys think that Nvidia kinda IDK stinks and the whole dual card solutions. While they make some killer high end single card solutions. I believe they should leave the X2 format with ATI, they seem to have more luck....... or skill.
i'll save my money I guess the older cards prices will drop after this if I have money i'll get a 9800gtxx2 or 280
[QUOTE=''Zenkuso''][QUOTE=''LordEC911''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso'']So I assume they made this card micro-studdering proof or something or is that only the 9800GX2? [/QUOTE] All cards dual cards have micro stuttering problems. even the 4870x2[/QUOTE]It must not be bad on this card.I wonder how much power this card uses?:P [/QUOTE]
289 watts. http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/
[QUOTE=''GuitarFreak2''][QUOTE=''Zenkuso''][QUOTE=''LordEC911''] All cards dual cards have micro stuttering problems. even the 4870x2[/QUOTE]It must not be bad on this card.I wonder how much power this card uses?:P [/QUOTE] 289 watts. http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/[/QUOTE] Quoted the wrong person there buddy :P I already know how much it uses, it was speculated in most other previews of the card.
Finally an actual reveiw that amkes sens eand it looks like its going to be an outstanding card, props to nvidia this time i surprised the 4870x2 and 295 are neck to nvidia takes it by 3-4 fps but that doenst bother me ;)
';2 MB T&L capable video card required';???
Hi. I don't have a gaming computer, but I was curious to see if I could run Halo: Combat Evolved on my computer. Here are the requirements:http://www.microsoft.com/games/pc/halo.aspxI am sure my computer is capable except I'm confused about the graphics card part. It says ''2MB T%26L capable video card required''. What the heck does that mean. My video card is called Intel[R] 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics ControllerAny help would be appreciated. I don't want to buy this game for my pc if I don't know whether or not I can run it. ';2 MB T%26amp;L capable video card required';???
It means a 2mb or more video card that supports texture and lighting such as as a gefore or radeon card. . Any radeon 9xxx series card is more than enough and can be found for dirt cheap. you will need to check you mob has a pcie or agp graphics port though. You current card is a integrated graphics which aren't good for much more than word processing. ';2 MB T%26amp;L capable video card required';???
Your video card looks like it is on-board and wont run Halo.
It means a 2mb or more video card that supports texture and lighting such as as a gefore or radeon card. . Any radeon 9xxx series card is more than enough and can be found for dirt cheap. you will need to check you mob has a pcie or agp graphics port though. You current card is a integrated graphics which aren't good for much more than word processing. ';2 MB T%26amp;L capable video card required';???
Your video card looks like it is on-board and wont run Halo.
Command pads
So the thought came for me between looking at G11's and Lycosa's, why not just get a gaming kewpad and keep my current not-bad-but-not-good keyboard? Basically what I want from you is which of these four (or other recommendation) and why.Logitech G13
Belkin N52TE
Saitek Cyborg Command Pad
Cyber Snipa Game Pad V2Personally, while I love Logitech the G13 is a little expensive for me, I don't know much about Cyber Snipa and that pad design seems unintuitive, I'm unsure of Saitek's build quality, and I don't like that the Belkin has a pad and not stick.
Belkin N52TE
Saitek Cyborg Command Pad
Cyber Snipa Game Pad V2Personally, while I love Logitech the G13 is a little expensive for me, I don't know much about Cyber Snipa and that pad design seems unintuitive, I'm unsure of Saitek's build quality, and I don't like that the Belkin has a pad and not stick.
Question about installing programs onto USB external HD
If I bought an external USB hard drive and installed some games in it, would it take longer to load everything?Thanks Question about installing programs onto USB external HD
Yes.Question about installing programs onto USB external HD
Bump... would it make a difference if the external HD was Firewire instead of USB?Thanks
Yes, Firewire will be faster, assuming you are talking Firewire 800. You should do esata if possible.
Yes.Question about installing programs onto USB external HD
Bump... would it make a difference if the external HD was Firewire instead of USB?Thanks
Yes, Firewire will be faster, assuming you are talking Firewire 800. You should do esata if possible.
My Lexmark Printer Isn't Working!
It says that its not communicating! What 2 Do!?My Lexmark Printer Isn't Working!
Download the drivers.My Lexmark Printer Isn't Working!
how?
Lexmark.com? :? If not try softpedia
Download the drivers.My Lexmark Printer Isn't Working!
how?
Lexmark.com? :? If not try softpedia
windows vista business???
i can get this for free from my school is it even like the home edition? im not sure what it will and wont have any ideas?windows vista business???
Business has some network features Home doesn't. (like remote desktopp and domains), and doesn't come with home features like movie maker and a few others things I can't remember.windows vista business???
The perks are mostly administrative tools and features, plus networking capabilities. I find remote desktop really useful if you have several computers. I'd say go with it if it's not too much trouble
[QUOTE=''Larrymon2000'']The perks are mostly administrative tools and features, plus networking capabilities. I find remote desktop really useful if you have several computers. I'd say go with it if it's not too much trouble[/QUOTE]
alright i understand what you mean but like, im a pc gammer not a business person. its just its free over 125$ am i still getting DX 10 and stuff?
Vista Business is basically the equivelent of XP Pro, while Vista Home Premium would be XP Home. DX10 is in both, as far as software compatibility Vista is all the same.
FREE...........did i read FREE :|..........i would get it.
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx[/url]
Scratch that i need my Chess Titans and Inkball :lol:
[QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']FREE...........did i read FREE :|..........i would get it.
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx[/url]
Scratch that i need my Chess Titans and Inkball :lol:[/QUOTE]
alrigjht i compared them but it says business dosent get ( have fun with ur pc, media stuff,make dvds) does that mean i wont be able to or i just need to d/l stuff bc it wont come with it?
Won't come with windows movie maker n such, does anyone even use it? There are always freeware alternatives that are usually better anyway.
[QUOTE=''JetB1ackNewYear''][QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']FREE...........did i read FREE :|..........i would get it.
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx[/url]
Scratch that i need my Chess Titans and Inkball :lol:[/QUOTE]
alrigjht i compared them but it says business dosent get ( have fun with ur pc, media stuff,make dvds) does that mean i wont be able to or i just need to d/l stuff bc it wont come with it?[/QUOTE]
It won't have Media Center on there at all, you can't replace that directly. You can emulate it with things like TVersity or WMP's sharing service.. Burning DVD's and stuff though... yeah, you can definitely get other programs for that.
Business has some network features Home doesn't. (like remote desktopp and domains), and doesn't come with home features like movie maker and a few others things I can't remember.windows vista business???
The perks are mostly administrative tools and features, plus networking capabilities. I find remote desktop really useful if you have several computers. I'd say go with it if it's not too much trouble
[QUOTE=''Larrymon2000'']The perks are mostly administrative tools and features, plus networking capabilities. I find remote desktop really useful if you have several computers. I'd say go with it if it's not too much trouble[/QUOTE]
alright i understand what you mean but like, im a pc gammer not a business person. its just its free over 125$ am i still getting DX 10 and stuff?
Vista Business is basically the equivelent of XP Pro, while Vista Home Premium would be XP Home. DX10 is in both, as far as software compatibility Vista is all the same.
FREE...........did i read FREE :|..........i would get it.
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx[/url]
Scratch that i need my Chess Titans and Inkball :lol:
[QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']FREE...........did i read FREE :|..........i would get it.
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx[/url]
Scratch that i need my Chess Titans and Inkball :lol:[/QUOTE]
alrigjht i compared them but it says business dosent get ( have fun with ur pc, media stuff,make dvds) does that mean i wont be able to or i just need to d/l stuff bc it wont come with it?
Won't come with windows movie maker n such, does anyone even use it? There are always freeware alternatives that are usually better anyway.
[QUOTE=''JetB1ackNewYear''][QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']FREE...........did i read FREE :|..........i would get it.
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx[/url]
Scratch that i need my Chess Titans and Inkball :lol:[/QUOTE]
alrigjht i compared them but it says business dosent get ( have fun with ur pc, media stuff,make dvds) does that mean i wont be able to or i just need to d/l stuff bc it wont come with it?[/QUOTE]
It won't have Media Center on there at all, you can't replace that directly. You can emulate it with things like TVersity or WMP's sharing service.. Burning DVD's and stuff though... yeah, you can definitely get other programs for that.
Quad vs. Duo
Due to budget cuts I'm not gonna get the i7, so I wanna know which is better for gaming quad or duo? My computers really just gonna be gaming/web surfing thats it, no video editing, photoshop etc. Quad vs. Duo
The intel Core 2 Quad Processors are very better then Duos. Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q965012MB L23 GHz1333 MHzIs almost great as The Intel Core 2 Extreme (quad core)Quad vs. Duo
This really depends on how much you want to spend. For $160-$170 you can get a really nice Core 2 Duo like mine and overclock it. Right now there is very little point in buying a quad-core for gaming unless you have money to burn, which from your post, it sounds like you don't. Also, with the way games are using cpu's right now, if you must get a quad- get one that will overclock to at least 3.2-3.4 ghz. Namely, a very expensive one. You'll want the clock speed to get the most out of any decent gaming video card.
OC go for quad q6600. otherwise u can try dual E8500
E7300 and a beefy GPU.
[QUOTE=''Furnish'']The intel Core 2 Quad Processors are very better then Duos. Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q965012MB L23 GHz1333 MHzIs almost great as The Intel Core 2 Extreme (quad core)[/QUOTE]
Get a quad if you are going to overclock, otherwise save a lot of money and get a faster dual core!
There's a topic just like this on page one of the forum. There are also about ten other topics like it in the forum. Does anyone use the search function?
il show you an more accurate benchmark Q9550 overclocked to around 3.8ghz is near E8600 4.3ghz Overclock in all-round performances
the big problems is Q9550 as we know off is hard to go higher then 3.6ghz at nice voltage so it likely why Core 2 Duo lead in overclocking challange
if a E8400 3.6Ghz Can match a Q9550 3.6Ghz It why the E8600 4.3ghz LEAD of course i haven't overclock yet to that level but respecting votlage level i should reach 4.3Ghz but as Easy Step 4.0ghz unlikes E8400 who can't reach 4.0ghz without playing with voltage much near some dangerous line
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=775%26p=5
the problems is Q9650 = 550$ = You' better core i7 For that money but you said you can't no money for it so it sad for you but if i was you id go Core i7 + like a 260GTX 216 Core then in the Future Set of Video card like 5870 by that time you got Extra money so you can get a Real Decent GPU and Leave ur 260GTX / SLI as Waste Else if you sli 260GTX 216 Core Is A Good option and higher then 4870x2 With Current Drivers * It a possible ati to make a comeback but it unlikely to be soon After Well Thinking I leave a JPG What informate you on Current Status with COre 2 %26 COre 2 Quad with a gTX 280 which is only few fps behind 280GTX
[img]http://www.legionhardware.com/Bench/CPU_Scaling_With_The_GeForce_GTX_280/Crysis.png[/img]
this works
The intel Core 2 Quad Processors are very better then Duos. Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q965012MB L23 GHz1333 MHzIs almost great as The Intel Core 2 Extreme (quad core)Quad vs. Duo
This really depends on how much you want to spend. For $160-$170 you can get a really nice Core 2 Duo like mine and overclock it. Right now there is very little point in buying a quad-core for gaming unless you have money to burn, which from your post, it sounds like you don't. Also, with the way games are using cpu's right now, if you must get a quad- get one that will overclock to at least 3.2-3.4 ghz. Namely, a very expensive one. You'll want the clock speed to get the most out of any decent gaming video card.
OC go for quad q6600. otherwise u can try dual E8500
E7300 and a beefy GPU.
[QUOTE=''Furnish'']The intel Core 2 Quad Processors are very better then Duos. Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q965012MB L23 GHz1333 MHzIs almost great as The Intel Core 2 Extreme (quad core)[/QUOTE]
Get a quad if you are going to overclock, otherwise save a lot of money and get a faster dual core!
There's a topic just like this on page one of the forum. There are also about ten other topics like it in the forum. Does anyone use the search function?
il show you an more accurate benchmark Q9550 overclocked to around 3.8ghz is near E8600 4.3ghz Overclock in all-round performances
the big problems is Q9550 as we know off is hard to go higher then 3.6ghz at nice voltage so it likely why Core 2 Duo lead in overclocking challange
if a E8400 3.6Ghz Can match a Q9550 3.6Ghz It why the E8600 4.3ghz LEAD of course i haven't overclock yet to that level but respecting votlage level i should reach 4.3Ghz but as Easy Step 4.0ghz unlikes E8400 who can't reach 4.0ghz without playing with voltage much near some dangerous line
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=775%26p=5
the problems is Q9650 = 550$ = You' better core i7 For that money but you said you can't no money for it so it sad for you but if i was you id go Core i7 + like a 260GTX 216 Core then in the Future Set of Video card like 5870 by that time you got Extra money so you can get a Real Decent GPU and Leave ur 260GTX / SLI as Waste Else if you sli 260GTX 216 Core Is A Good option and higher then 4870x2 With Current Drivers * It a possible ati to make a comeback but it unlikely to be soon After Well Thinking I leave a JPG What informate you on Current Status with COre 2 %26 COre 2 Quad with a gTX 280 which is only few fps behind 280GTX
[img]http://www.legionhardware.com/Bench/CPU_Scaling_With_The_GeForce_GTX_280/Crysis.png[/img]
Using ps3 controller on pc
hi,it meants to work i heard bbut HOW???help!!!Using ps3 controller on pc
This might help: http://news.filefront.com/how-to-use-a-ps3-controller-on-a-pc/Using ps3 controller on pc
thanks i am using vista business 64bit, i can see the controller in the control panel, but none of the buttons are working.
hi,anyone got this working on vista business 64bit?Thanks
[url=http://zedomax.com/blog/2006/12/09/ps3-hack-ps3-six-axis-controller-can-be-used-in-windows/]Here's[/url] how, I read on some forums it works for vista too, might as well give it a try.
:: Edit
Oh a guy posted a similar link, well any I'm just backing up and saying yeah I've heard it works with vista and should do with 64bit.
i downloaded that zip and followed the directions but its still not regestering any button input, the controller is there and my computer recognises it as a ps3 controller, but it doesnt do anything. can anybody help?
H.I used t connect my ps3 controller to my pc. But now I my pc can't recogize my controller, every time I connetct my controller the lights doesn't flash and there's no controllers regists at the Controller Panel. what should I do?Thanks
This might help: http://news.filefront.com/how-to-use-a-ps3-controller-on-a-pc/Using ps3 controller on pc
thanks i am using vista business 64bit, i can see the controller in the control panel, but none of the buttons are working.
hi,anyone got this working on vista business 64bit?Thanks
[url=http://zedomax.com/blog/2006/12/09/ps3-hack-ps3-six-axis-controller-can-be-used-in-windows/]Here's[/url] how, I read on some forums it works for vista too, might as well give it a try.
:: Edit
Oh a guy posted a similar link, well any I'm just backing up and saying yeah I've heard it works with vista and should do with 64bit.
i downloaded that zip and followed the directions but its still not regestering any button input, the controller is there and my computer recognises it as a ps3 controller, but it doesnt do anything. can anybody help?
H.I used t connect my ps3 controller to my pc. But now I my pc can't recogize my controller, every time I connetct my controller the lights doesn't flash and there's no controllers regists at the Controller Panel. what should I do?Thanks
Installing an additional internal Hard Drive
Is installing an internal SATA 2 HD as simple as plugging in the SATA and power cable? Would Windows XP recognize it right away or are there more steps that need to be done.Thanks Installing an additional internal Hard Drive
You need to create a partition, and format it. Go to control panel, administative tools, the disk administrator. You should see you new disk, and if you right click on it you should see a create new partition in the context menu and also format. Just make sure you are on the right drive. (lol)Installing an additional internal Hard Drive
I don't see an ''the disk administrator icon'' lol. Or does it show up after I install the Hard Drive?
Sorry, after administrative tools, click computer management, then disk management.
oic. Thanks for your help man. I'll be picking up a hard drive tommorow!
You need to create a partition, and format it. Go to control panel, administative tools, the disk administrator. You should see you new disk, and if you right click on it you should see a create new partition in the context menu and also format. Just make sure you are on the right drive. (lol)Installing an additional internal Hard Drive
I don't see an ''the disk administrator icon'' lol. Or does it show up after I install the Hard Drive?
Sorry, after administrative tools, click computer management, then disk management.
oic. Thanks for your help man. I'll be picking up a hard drive tommorow!
Wiping Vista and getting back disk space
I format my hard drive every couple of months, just to get rid of crap and keep everything running smooth. However, I've noticed the available room on my hard drive (as seen from windows) after each format has been going down. I think this is because I'm just using the format option on the Windows disk, which I recon doesn't do a hugely great job. Can anyone recommend a free HDD wiping program which will get back all of my lost volume? CheersWiping Vista and getting back disk space
Just boot from the Vista disk, when it gets to the drive selection stage click the drive and then click advanced. Then delete the partition instead of format, it makes it into a clean drive just as new.
Just boot from the Vista disk, when it gets to the drive selection stage click the drive and then click advanced. Then delete the partition instead of format, it makes it into a clean drive just as new.
a vista problem?
hey for some reason whilst playing world of warcraft in the outlands areas my frame rate will dip to about 45 and feel really sluggish although in the original wow areas its always 60 never drops, my system really should be doing better or well at least i think it should here are the specs: ( with v-sync on) intel core2 duo e6850 @3.00 ghz2.00 gig ramnvidia 8800 gtx sli 768mbasus striker extreme mb1100w psu64 bit windows vistaim starting to think maybe its windows vista and is it worth going back to windows xp? thank you a vista problem?
Enable Triple Buffering its the option underneath VSync.a vista problem?
il give it a try when i get back from work thnx although i think i have tried it before and it didnt help much il give it another go though
It worked for me before, my FPS would dip for no reason with an E8400, 4GB ram and an 8800GT. EDIT: I just noticed a potential problem, 4GB is a must for 64 bit windows, get another 2GB. Trust me you will love me for it. I used to run 64 bit Vista with 2GB and my gaming was terrible, another 2GB made a world of difference!
ye i got another 2 on the way i used to have 4 in the system before i got it repaired for some reason they took 2gig out because they thought it can only read 2 they phoned later saying they didnt realise it was 64 bit vista i was pretty pissed off lol
Haha, well stick the 2GB in and enable Triple Buffering and you should be sorted.
kk thanks for your help mate
No problem, glad to help.
Enable Triple Buffering its the option underneath VSync.a vista problem?
il give it a try when i get back from work thnx although i think i have tried it before and it didnt help much il give it another go though
It worked for me before, my FPS would dip for no reason with an E8400, 4GB ram and an 8800GT. EDIT: I just noticed a potential problem, 4GB is a must for 64 bit windows, get another 2GB. Trust me you will love me for it. I used to run 64 bit Vista with 2GB and my gaming was terrible, another 2GB made a world of difference!
ye i got another 2 on the way i used to have 4 in the system before i got it repaired for some reason they took 2gig out because they thought it can only read 2 they phoned later saying they didnt realise it was 64 bit vista i was pretty pissed off lol
Haha, well stick the 2GB in and enable Triple Buffering and you should be sorted.
kk thanks for your help mate
No problem, glad to help.
Adding 4gb of ram to this system, good idea?
Hi,
I currently run 2GB (2x1) of ram (Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX) on Vista64bit, and am considering upgrading it to 6GB with an additional 4GB (2x2) of Corsair 4GB DDR2 XMS2 PC2-6400C5 TwinX (2x2GB).
The 4GB is at a very good price only ?6, though I'm aware I'd have to run my current ram at the slower timings I assume it would be a good idea to add the 4GB and I just wanted to check this?
Thanks
Tom
Specs:
Q6600
BFG 8800GT OC
Gigabyte P35-DS3LAdding 4gb of ram to this system, good idea?
If its not a ddr3 board stick to 4gb instead of 6gb, you won't see much performance increase over it with 6gb.Adding 4gb of ram to this system, good idea?
With a Q6600, I'm not sure 6 gigs is necessary...
if it's ddr 2 ur wasting time 4gb is more then enough with a fast processer
Go for 4g instead of 6g. there are not much diff between 4g and 6g in gaming purpose
As you are using a Windows Vista 64-bit the minimul requirement for this operating system is 4Gb. It is best that you use the same range and brand ram on the same motherboard for max. performance. Or you have glitches.
thanks for your advice everyone, the 4GB kit though is only a few pounds more than than another 2GB of what I already have in my system, but the timings of the 4GB are slighty worse at 5-5-5-18 instead of 4-4-4-12.I just assumed that though i may not need the full 6GB it wouldn't hurt and since it was only a few pounds more than upgrading to 4GB it would be worth it.Thanks and please keep your suggestions coming
Just get the 4GB and have only that in, less headaches with issues etc.
would i really have any issues though? since it is exactly the same brand and make of ram (both Corsair DDR2 XMS2) just the 4GB runs at slightly slower timings, timings that i already know my current ram has no issue running at?Thanks again
But its not the exact same model right? Motherboard manufacturers recommend using only the exact same model. Say for example you have a 2x1GB kit and you want 4GB then they recommend another set of the same 2x1GB. You can try it but you might run into a problem, you never know you might be ok.
fair enough, and thanks again for all your help.could you also tell me what is the difference between PC2 and not? as the 4GB kit is described as being PC2-6400C5 where my current kit is just 6400C4?thanks
PC used to mean it was DDR1 but seeing as DDR1 doesnt come in pc6400 then they should be the same. Just different stores etc put it differently.
thanks, its the same store but i see what you mean, so no problem there then.
I currently run 2GB (2x1) of ram (Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX) on Vista64bit, and am considering upgrading it to 6GB with an additional 4GB (2x2) of Corsair 4GB DDR2 XMS2 PC2-6400C5 TwinX (2x2GB).
The 4GB is at a very good price only ?6, though I'm aware I'd have to run my current ram at the slower timings I assume it would be a good idea to add the 4GB and I just wanted to check this?
Thanks
Tom
Specs:
Q6600
BFG 8800GT OC
Gigabyte P35-DS3LAdding 4gb of ram to this system, good idea?
If its not a ddr3 board stick to 4gb instead of 6gb, you won't see much performance increase over it with 6gb.Adding 4gb of ram to this system, good idea?
With a Q6600, I'm not sure 6 gigs is necessary...
if it's ddr 2 ur wasting time 4gb is more then enough with a fast processer
Go for 4g instead of 6g. there are not much diff between 4g and 6g in gaming purpose
As you are using a Windows Vista 64-bit the minimul requirement for this operating system is 4Gb. It is best that you use the same range and brand ram on the same motherboard for max. performance. Or you have glitches.
thanks for your advice everyone, the 4GB kit though is only a few pounds more than than another 2GB of what I already have in my system, but the timings of the 4GB are slighty worse at 5-5-5-18 instead of 4-4-4-12.I just assumed that though i may not need the full 6GB it wouldn't hurt and since it was only a few pounds more than upgrading to 4GB it would be worth it.Thanks and please keep your suggestions coming
Just get the 4GB and have only that in, less headaches with issues etc.
would i really have any issues though? since it is exactly the same brand and make of ram (both Corsair DDR2 XMS2) just the 4GB runs at slightly slower timings, timings that i already know my current ram has no issue running at?Thanks again
But its not the exact same model right? Motherboard manufacturers recommend using only the exact same model. Say for example you have a 2x1GB kit and you want 4GB then they recommend another set of the same 2x1GB. You can try it but you might run into a problem, you never know you might be ok.
fair enough, and thanks again for all your help.could you also tell me what is the difference between PC2 and not? as the 4GB kit is described as being PC2-6400C5 where my current kit is just 6400C4?thanks
PC used to mean it was DDR1 but seeing as DDR1 doesnt come in pc6400 then they should be the same. Just different stores etc put it differently.
thanks, its the same store but i see what you mean, so no problem there then.
The new boss is here : GTX295 *Benchmarks*
Hi...While surfing the net I found this trust worthy benchmarks from guru3d.com which absolutely stunned me O_oClick here to see the benchmarks.Anyway I don't think I will get it anytime soon unless I got $$$ to waste :Pi7 CPU + Gigabyte EX58 motherboard + 6GB DDR3 (2000)+ GTX295 + a powerful PSU = the best computer (well, until something shows up) The new boss is here : GTX295 *Benchmarks*
Ohhh by the way the source said that it price should be $499 which is pretty amazing considering the performance you are getting.The new boss is here : GTX295 *Benchmarks*
Wait what? They don't compare GTX 280 and 295? -_-
[QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']Wait what? They don't compare GTX 280 and 295? -_-[/QUOTE]
The GTX280 is an old story now :P
Because its 10~15% better than the GTX260, the XFX GTX260 Black Edition beats the GTX280.
[QUOTE=''gla300''][QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']Wait what? They don't compare GTX 280 and 295? -_-[/QUOTE] The GTX280 is an old story now :P Because its 10~15% better than the GTX260, the XFX GTX260 Black Edition beats the GTX280.[/QUOTE]so when is the release?
[QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious''][QUOTE=''gla300''][QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']Wait what? They don't compare GTX 280 and 295? -_-[/QUOTE] The GTX280 is an old story now :P Because its 10~15% better than the GTX260, the XFX GTX260 Black Edition beats the GTX280.[/QUOTE]so when is the release? [/QUOTE]
It maybe Jan 6 2009 or Jan 9 2009 I don't remember exactly.
[QUOTE=''gla300''] Hi...While surfing the net I found this trust worthy benchmarks from guru3d.com which absolutely stunned me O_oClick here to see the benchmarks.Anyway I don't think I will get it anytime soon unless I got $$$ to waste :Pi7 CPU + Gigabyte EX58 motherboard + 6GB DDR3 (2000)+ GTX295 + a powerful PSU = the best computer (well, until something shows up) [/QUOTE]I don't like these Nvidia 2GPU crammed together they might be seem a good idea now and give you the good frames but they will soon be forgot about and will suffer like the 9800GX2 when they don't bother to support it.
[QUOTE=''teddyrob''][QUOTE=''gla300''] Hi...While surfing the net I found this trust worthy benchmarks from guru3d.com which absolutely stunned me O_oClick here to see the benchmarks.Anyway I don't think I will get it anytime soon unless I got $$$ to waste :Pi7 CPU + Gigabyte EX58 motherboard + 6GB DDR3 (2000)+ GTX295 + a powerful PSU = the best computer (well, until something shows up) [/QUOTE]I don't like these Nvidia 2GPU crammed together they might be seem a good idea now and give you the good frames but they will soon be forgot about and will suffer like the 9800GX2 when they don't bother to support it. [/QUOTE]
Well, take good care of your graphic card and you won't need a support :P
[QUOTE=''teddyrob''][QUOTE=''gla300''] Hi...While surfing the net I found this trust worthy benchmarks from guru3d.com which absolutely stunned me O_oClick here to see the benchmarks.Anyway I don't think I will get it anytime soon unless I got $$$ to waste :Pi7 CPU + Gigabyte EX58 motherboard + 6GB DDR3 (2000)+ GTX295 + a powerful PSU = the best computer (well, until something shows up) [/QUOTE]I don't like these Nvidia 2GPU crammed together they might be seem a good idea now and give you the good frames but they will soon be forgot about and will suffer like the 9800GX2 when they don't bother to support it. [/QUOTE]
He is correct, this card seems just well amazing, but if they kill support to it it will just be another 9800gx2, but if they continue to support this thing watch out ATI :)
[QUOTE=''gla300''] Well, take good care of your graphic card and you won't need a support :P[/QUOTE]Nvidia need to support it long term not just 5 minutes to get the King of GPUs crown.Look what happened to the 9800GX2=5FPShttp://www.guru3d.com/article/far-cry-2-pc-vga-graphics-performance-review/5
[QUOTE=''teddyrob''][QUOTE=''gla300''] Well, take good care of your graphic card and you won't need a support :P[/QUOTE]Nvidia need to support it long term not just 5 minutes to get the King of GPUs crown.Look what happened to the 9800GX2=5FPShttp://www.guru3d.com/article/far-cry-2-pc-vga-graphics-performance-review/5 [/QUOTE]Yeah, I was never a fan of the two gpu in one card solution, so I'll get 2 regular GTX 280 for my next pc
Not impressed.
I'm not impressed by that guru article, firstly they compare it to 260 GTX and not 280, I mean wth. Also in their crysis test they set the settings to gamer and not enthusiast, if you're going to test a card to it's limit you need a test with crysis on highest settings. And not to mention they overclock their CPU to 3.7ghz+ while on similiar articles like the ne testing multi gpu's on x58 they use stock settings. It would seem natural that they would overclock the cpu in the multi gpu test to avoid cpu limitations, which is very obvious in quad crossfirex and 3 SLI benchs. Instead they do this with the GTX 295, ofc to avoid cpu limitations.In other words, this is clearly a biased review to make GTX 295 look good. If you look at this review, which has the same cpu and overclock you'll see that a 280 GTX performs just as good or even better in Crysis at higher in game settingshttp://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1403%26pageID=5741 So take this guru review with a big grain of salt
Here's a previewhttp://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-295,2107.html Not as complete but atleast something.
[QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']I'm not impressed by that guru article, firstly they compare it to 260 GTX and not 280, I mean wth. Also in their crysis test they set the settings to gamer and not enthusiast, if you're going to test a card to it's limit you need a test with crysis on highest settings. And not to mention they overclock their CPU to 3.7ghz+ while on similiar articles like the ne testing multi gpu's on x58 they use stock settings. It would seem natural that they would overclock the cpu in the multi gpu test to avoid cpu limitations, which is very obvious in quad crossfirex and 3 SLI benchs. Instead they do this with the GTX 295, ofc to avoid cpu limitations.In other words, this is clearly a biased review to make GTX 295 look good. If you look at this review, which has the same cpu and overclock you'll see that a 280 GTX performs just as good or even better in Crysis at higher in game settingshttp://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1403%26pageID=5741 So take this guru review with a big grain of salt [/QUOTE]
In my opinion Guru3d.com is the best website for benchmarks because its truly neutral, well they always overclock the cpu to get rid of any bottleneck.
They are not trying to make Nvidia looks better or something like that, you will believe me when you check their reviews on ATI cards, the GTX295 has beaten all ATI cards period.
I've checked a lot of other sites most of them are ether paid by Nvidia/ATi or has inaccurate results.
[QUOTE=''gla300''][QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']I'm not impressed by that guru article, firstly they compare it to 260 GTX and not 280, I mean wth. Also in their crysis test they set the settings to gamer and not enthusiast, if you're going to test a card to it's limit you need a test with crysis on highest settings. And not to mention they overclock their CPU to 3.7ghz+ while on similiar articles like the ne testing multi gpu's on x58 they use stock settings. It would seem natural that they would overclock the cpu in the multi gpu test to avoid cpu limitations, which is very obvious in quad crossfirex and 3 SLI benchs. Instead they do this with the GTX 295, ofc to avoid cpu limitations.In other words, this is clearly a biased review to make GTX 295 look good. If you look at this review, which has the same cpu and overclock you'll see that a 280 GTX performs just as good or even better in Crysis at higher in game settingshttp://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1403%26pageID=5741 So take this guru review with a big grain of salt [/QUOTE] In my opinion Guru3d.com is the best website for benchmarks because its truly neutral, well they always overclock the cpu to get rid of any bottleneck. They are not trying to make Nvidia looks better or something like that, you will believe me when you check their reviews on ATI cards, the GTX295 has beaten all ATI cards period. I've checked a lot of other sites most of them are ether paid by Nvidia/ATi or has inaccurate results. [/QUOTE]right.... http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU5OSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
I can probably guess thatr ATI already has something up there sleeve. They wont release it just yet but they will right when nvidia thinks they have ATI. I still dont find this card to be worth it. Id rather have my card that I payed half of what the 295 is and still plays games at pretty much max settings at good frames.
[QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious''][QUOTE=''gla300''][QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']I'm not impressed by that guru article, firstly they compare it to 260 GTX and not 280, I mean wth. Also in their crysis test they set the settings to gamer and not enthusiast, if you're going to test a card to it's limit you need a test with crysis on highest settings. And not to mention they overclock their CPU to 3.7ghz+ while on similiar articles like the ne testing multi gpu's on x58 they use stock settings. It would seem natural that they would overclock the cpu in the multi gpu test to avoid cpu limitations, which is very obvious in quad crossfirex and 3 SLI benchs. Instead they do this with the GTX 295, ofc to avoid cpu limitations.In other words, this is clearly a biased review to make GTX 295 look good. If you look at this review, which has the same cpu and overclock you'll see that a 280 GTX performs just as good or even better in Crysis at higher in game settingshttp://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1403%26pageID=5741 So take this guru review with a big grain of salt [/QUOTE] In my opinion Guru3d.com is the best website for benchmarks because its truly neutral, well they always overclock the cpu to get rid of any bottleneck. They are not trying to make Nvidia looks better or something like that, you will believe me when you check their reviews on ATI cards, the GTX295 has beaten all ATI cards period. I've checked a lot of other sites most of them are ether paid by Nvidia/ATi or has inaccurate results. [/QUOTE]right.... http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU5OSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA== [/QUOTE]
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com is a (Nvidia website) check the review of the XFX GTX260 Black Edition, they fps gain is huge !!! Which is really inaccurate, its a powerful card but not that much.
[QUOTE=''Killfox'']I can probably guess thatr ATI already has something up there sleeve. They wont release it just yet but they will right when nvidia thinks they have ATI. I still dont find this card to be worth it. Id rather have my card that I payed half of what the 295 is and still plays games at pretty much max settings at good frames.[/QUOTE]
The more they release the cheaper the other card will get :D
I hope this continue for ever :P
But you are right about the GTX295, once the ATi 5000 series comes out we will see if the GTX295 can compete with it.this works
Ohhh by the way the source said that it price should be $499 which is pretty amazing considering the performance you are getting.The new boss is here : GTX295 *Benchmarks*
Wait what? They don't compare GTX 280 and 295? -_-
[QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']Wait what? They don't compare GTX 280 and 295? -_-[/QUOTE]
The GTX280 is an old story now :P
Because its 10~15% better than the GTX260, the XFX GTX260 Black Edition beats the GTX280.
[QUOTE=''gla300''][QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']Wait what? They don't compare GTX 280 and 295? -_-[/QUOTE] The GTX280 is an old story now :P Because its 10~15% better than the GTX260, the XFX GTX260 Black Edition beats the GTX280.[/QUOTE]so when is the release?
[QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious''][QUOTE=''gla300''][QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']Wait what? They don't compare GTX 280 and 295? -_-[/QUOTE] The GTX280 is an old story now :P Because its 10~15% better than the GTX260, the XFX GTX260 Black Edition beats the GTX280.[/QUOTE]so when is the release? [/QUOTE]
It maybe Jan 6 2009 or Jan 9 2009 I don't remember exactly.
[QUOTE=''gla300''] Hi...While surfing the net I found this trust worthy benchmarks from guru3d.com which absolutely stunned me O_oClick here to see the benchmarks.Anyway I don't think I will get it anytime soon unless I got $$$ to waste :Pi7 CPU + Gigabyte EX58 motherboard + 6GB DDR3 (2000)+ GTX295 + a powerful PSU = the best computer (well, until something shows up) [/QUOTE]I don't like these Nvidia 2GPU crammed together they might be seem a good idea now and give you the good frames but they will soon be forgot about and will suffer like the 9800GX2 when they don't bother to support it.
[QUOTE=''teddyrob''][QUOTE=''gla300''] Hi...While surfing the net I found this trust worthy benchmarks from guru3d.com which absolutely stunned me O_oClick here to see the benchmarks.Anyway I don't think I will get it anytime soon unless I got $$$ to waste :Pi7 CPU + Gigabyte EX58 motherboard + 6GB DDR3 (2000)+ GTX295 + a powerful PSU = the best computer (well, until something shows up) [/QUOTE]I don't like these Nvidia 2GPU crammed together they might be seem a good idea now and give you the good frames but they will soon be forgot about and will suffer like the 9800GX2 when they don't bother to support it. [/QUOTE]
Well, take good care of your graphic card and you won't need a support :P
[QUOTE=''teddyrob''][QUOTE=''gla300''] Hi...While surfing the net I found this trust worthy benchmarks from guru3d.com which absolutely stunned me O_oClick here to see the benchmarks.Anyway I don't think I will get it anytime soon unless I got $$$ to waste :Pi7 CPU + Gigabyte EX58 motherboard + 6GB DDR3 (2000)+ GTX295 + a powerful PSU = the best computer (well, until something shows up) [/QUOTE]I don't like these Nvidia 2GPU crammed together they might be seem a good idea now and give you the good frames but they will soon be forgot about and will suffer like the 9800GX2 when they don't bother to support it. [/QUOTE]
He is correct, this card seems just well amazing, but if they kill support to it it will just be another 9800gx2, but if they continue to support this thing watch out ATI :)
[QUOTE=''gla300''] Well, take good care of your graphic card and you won't need a support :P[/QUOTE]Nvidia need to support it long term not just 5 minutes to get the King of GPUs crown.Look what happened to the 9800GX2=5FPShttp://www.guru3d.com/article/far-cry-2-pc-vga-graphics-performance-review/5
[QUOTE=''teddyrob''][QUOTE=''gla300''] Well, take good care of your graphic card and you won't need a support :P[/QUOTE]Nvidia need to support it long term not just 5 minutes to get the King of GPUs crown.Look what happened to the 9800GX2=5FPShttp://www.guru3d.com/article/far-cry-2-pc-vga-graphics-performance-review/5 [/QUOTE]Yeah, I was never a fan of the two gpu in one card solution, so I'll get 2 regular GTX 280 for my next pc
Not impressed.
I'm not impressed by that guru article, firstly they compare it to 260 GTX and not 280, I mean wth. Also in their crysis test they set the settings to gamer and not enthusiast, if you're going to test a card to it's limit you need a test with crysis on highest settings. And not to mention they overclock their CPU to 3.7ghz+ while on similiar articles like the ne testing multi gpu's on x58 they use stock settings. It would seem natural that they would overclock the cpu in the multi gpu test to avoid cpu limitations, which is very obvious in quad crossfirex and 3 SLI benchs. Instead they do this with the GTX 295, ofc to avoid cpu limitations.In other words, this is clearly a biased review to make GTX 295 look good. If you look at this review, which has the same cpu and overclock you'll see that a 280 GTX performs just as good or even better in Crysis at higher in game settingshttp://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1403%26pageID=5741 So take this guru review with a big grain of salt
Here's a previewhttp://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-295,2107.html Not as complete but atleast something.
[QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']I'm not impressed by that guru article, firstly they compare it to 260 GTX and not 280, I mean wth. Also in their crysis test they set the settings to gamer and not enthusiast, if you're going to test a card to it's limit you need a test with crysis on highest settings. And not to mention they overclock their CPU to 3.7ghz+ while on similiar articles like the ne testing multi gpu's on x58 they use stock settings. It would seem natural that they would overclock the cpu in the multi gpu test to avoid cpu limitations, which is very obvious in quad crossfirex and 3 SLI benchs. Instead they do this with the GTX 295, ofc to avoid cpu limitations.In other words, this is clearly a biased review to make GTX 295 look good. If you look at this review, which has the same cpu and overclock you'll see that a 280 GTX performs just as good or even better in Crysis at higher in game settingshttp://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1403%26pageID=5741 So take this guru review with a big grain of salt [/QUOTE]
In my opinion Guru3d.com is the best website for benchmarks because its truly neutral, well they always overclock the cpu to get rid of any bottleneck.
They are not trying to make Nvidia looks better or something like that, you will believe me when you check their reviews on ATI cards, the GTX295 has beaten all ATI cards period.
I've checked a lot of other sites most of them are ether paid by Nvidia/ATi or has inaccurate results.
[QUOTE=''gla300''][QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']I'm not impressed by that guru article, firstly they compare it to 260 GTX and not 280, I mean wth. Also in their crysis test they set the settings to gamer and not enthusiast, if you're going to test a card to it's limit you need a test with crysis on highest settings. And not to mention they overclock their CPU to 3.7ghz+ while on similiar articles like the ne testing multi gpu's on x58 they use stock settings. It would seem natural that they would overclock the cpu in the multi gpu test to avoid cpu limitations, which is very obvious in quad crossfirex and 3 SLI benchs. Instead they do this with the GTX 295, ofc to avoid cpu limitations.In other words, this is clearly a biased review to make GTX 295 look good. If you look at this review, which has the same cpu and overclock you'll see that a 280 GTX performs just as good or even better in Crysis at higher in game settingshttp://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1403%26pageID=5741 So take this guru review with a big grain of salt [/QUOTE] In my opinion Guru3d.com is the best website for benchmarks because its truly neutral, well they always overclock the cpu to get rid of any bottleneck. They are not trying to make Nvidia looks better or something like that, you will believe me when you check their reviews on ATI cards, the GTX295 has beaten all ATI cards period. I've checked a lot of other sites most of them are ether paid by Nvidia/ATi or has inaccurate results. [/QUOTE]right.... http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU5OSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
I can probably guess thatr ATI already has something up there sleeve. They wont release it just yet but they will right when nvidia thinks they have ATI. I still dont find this card to be worth it. Id rather have my card that I payed half of what the 295 is and still plays games at pretty much max settings at good frames.
[QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious''][QUOTE=''gla300''][QUOTE=''Dark-Sithious'']I'm not impressed by that guru article, firstly they compare it to 260 GTX and not 280, I mean wth. Also in their crysis test they set the settings to gamer and not enthusiast, if you're going to test a card to it's limit you need a test with crysis on highest settings. And not to mention they overclock their CPU to 3.7ghz+ while on similiar articles like the ne testing multi gpu's on x58 they use stock settings. It would seem natural that they would overclock the cpu in the multi gpu test to avoid cpu limitations, which is very obvious in quad crossfirex and 3 SLI benchs. Instead they do this with the GTX 295, ofc to avoid cpu limitations.In other words, this is clearly a biased review to make GTX 295 look good. If you look at this review, which has the same cpu and overclock you'll see that a 280 GTX performs just as good or even better in Crysis at higher in game settingshttp://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1403%26pageID=5741 So take this guru review with a big grain of salt [/QUOTE] In my opinion Guru3d.com is the best website for benchmarks because its truly neutral, well they always overclock the cpu to get rid of any bottleneck. They are not trying to make Nvidia looks better or something like that, you will believe me when you check their reviews on ATI cards, the GTX295 has beaten all ATI cards period. I've checked a lot of other sites most of them are ether paid by Nvidia/ATi or has inaccurate results. [/QUOTE]right.... http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU5OSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA== [/QUOTE]
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com is a (Nvidia website) check the review of the XFX GTX260 Black Edition, they fps gain is huge !!! Which is really inaccurate, its a powerful card but not that much.
[QUOTE=''Killfox'']I can probably guess thatr ATI already has something up there sleeve. They wont release it just yet but they will right when nvidia thinks they have ATI. I still dont find this card to be worth it. Id rather have my card that I payed half of what the 295 is and still plays games at pretty much max settings at good frames.[/QUOTE]
The more they release the cheaper the other card will get :D
I hope this continue for ever :P
But you are right about the GTX295, once the ATi 5000 series comes out we will see if the GTX295 can compete with it.
wifi problems....
my laptop connect to the wifi in all of my friends houses as well as my apartment just fine, but when i try and connect to my parents wifi the speed totally collapses. when i first connect the wifi speed shows at 54mbps...then it falls to 38mbps...then 24...then 18...then 11...then 5.5...then 1...and it stays at 1 for the most part making surfing the net very difficult...when i use my sisters laptop the speed stays consistent at 54mbps...do you guys know why my laptop seems to have trouble staying connected at a good speed?wifi problems....
Could be location...could also be the router doesn't like your network card. At home, the best way to go is cabled...100mbps, well...roughly.
Could be location...could also be the router doesn't like your network card. At home, the best way to go is cabled...100mbps, well...roughly.
WTH is up with my graphics card?
No matter what I do to my ATI 4870 it keeps my GPU clock locked down at 500MHz, I tried using ATI over-drive and then I tried using rivatuner but not mater what it locks itself back 500MHz. Isnt my card supposed to be at 750MHz? WTH is going on?any help would be appreciated. WTH is up with my graphics card?
Try another set of drivers.WTH is up with my graphics card?
Doesn't it automatically clock itself to 500Mhz if it's not doing 3D applications?
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=vista64/common-vista64I forgot, incase anyone wondered what drivers I was using.
[QUOTE=''Larrymon2000'']Doesn't it automatically clock itself to 500Mhz if it's not doing 3D applications?[/QUOTE]
I have never seen that before in my life. If its true I can calm down.
Well I got a 4850 and I know for a fact that it will clock down under 2D apps, but with gaming will clock up again. Check your clock while gaming.
Powerplay or something isnt it? My GTX 260 downclocks to 300Mhz.
To be honest I've never seen a GPU underclock itself before. So I was highly confused by this.
It's for power saving. My 4850 is at 500 MHz right now, 1.5Ghz effect memclock.
I guess this is my bad.
Try another set of drivers.WTH is up with my graphics card?
Doesn't it automatically clock itself to 500Mhz if it's not doing 3D applications?
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=vista64/common-vista64I forgot, incase anyone wondered what drivers I was using.
[QUOTE=''Larrymon2000'']Doesn't it automatically clock itself to 500Mhz if it's not doing 3D applications?[/QUOTE]
I have never seen that before in my life. If its true I can calm down.
Well I got a 4850 and I know for a fact that it will clock down under 2D apps, but with gaming will clock up again. Check your clock while gaming.
Powerplay or something isnt it? My GTX 260 downclocks to 300Mhz.
To be honest I've never seen a GPU underclock itself before. So I was highly confused by this.
It's for power saving. My 4850 is at 500 MHz right now, 1.5Ghz effect memclock.
I guess this is my bad.
What could SLi or TriSLi with this?
What could SLi or Tri SLi with an xfx geforce 9800GTX+ 512 mb?Thanks! What could SLi or TriSLi with this?
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]What could SLi or TriSLi with this?
It is a question, i was wondering if there were a certain kind of GPU that would SLI with that well. I was looking at a barebones with a 3 way SLI mobo, and was wondering that. Would i have to get an exact copy? Could i get one much better/worse and still have them work together nicely? I'm kinda new at this whole gaming computer thing, so sorry if this is a stupid question.
This is the card i was referring too.
[QUOTE=''Roggirek'']It is a question, i was wondering if there were a certain kind of GPU that would SLI with that well. I was looking at a barebones with a 3 way SLI mobo, and was wondering that. Would i have to get an exact copy? Could i get one much better/worse and still have them work together nicely? I'm kinda new at this whole gaming computer thing, so sorry if this is a stupid question.[/QUOTE]oh now I got the question, I must be tired.I'm not sure, but I think you need the exact same card.
In that case, damn. Thats like the most expensive 9800GTX+ on tigerdirect lol. I'll check NewEgg.
Bump, is Dark correct? would i need the EXACT same card (brand) or would any 9800GTX+ do the job?
as long as the clocks on them where the same.
Oh ok, that makes sense! Thanks!
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]What could SLi or TriSLi with this?
It is a question, i was wondering if there were a certain kind of GPU that would SLI with that well. I was looking at a barebones with a 3 way SLI mobo, and was wondering that. Would i have to get an exact copy? Could i get one much better/worse and still have them work together nicely? I'm kinda new at this whole gaming computer thing, so sorry if this is a stupid question.
This is the card i was referring too.
[QUOTE=''Roggirek'']It is a question, i was wondering if there were a certain kind of GPU that would SLI with that well. I was looking at a barebones with a 3 way SLI mobo, and was wondering that. Would i have to get an exact copy? Could i get one much better/worse and still have them work together nicely? I'm kinda new at this whole gaming computer thing, so sorry if this is a stupid question.[/QUOTE]oh now I got the question, I must be tired.I'm not sure, but I think you need the exact same card.
In that case, damn. Thats like the most expensive 9800GTX+ on tigerdirect lol. I'll check NewEgg.
Bump, is Dark correct? would i need the EXACT same card (brand) or would any 9800GTX+ do the job?
as long as the clocks on them where the same.
Oh ok, that makes sense! Thanks!
Help.. No cursor!!
I just setup a HTPC with a 42 inch Sony full HD LCD TV and everythings works all right until I tried to play some games... The games load up but there is no cursor!! However when in window mode, the cursor will appear and will disappear again when changing back to full screen mode.
Do anyone know how to fix this problem, I can't find any solutions from browsing around in webs? So any help will be much appreciated :D.
I am running Windows vista 32bit with:
Asus P5QL-SE Mobo
C2Q Q8200 2.33Ghz
2gb ddr2 ram
Zotac 9800GTX+
Do anyone know how to fix this problem, I can't find any solutions from browsing around in webs? So any help will be much appreciated :D.
I am running Windows vista 32bit with:
Asus P5QL-SE Mobo
C2Q Q8200 2.33Ghz
2gb ddr2 ram
Zotac 9800GTX+
Good cpu cooler for under $35
Well I'm getting a E8500 and want overclock. I'd like a cooler for less than $35 and would prefer free shipping. Newegg plz.Good cpu cooler for under $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004%26Tpk=sunbeam%20coreGood cpu cooler for under $35
Freezer 7 Prois a very good cooler for the price. My CPU usually idles in the low-mid 20's and never goes above 50C.
Xigmatek S1283 easily.
The Xigmatek HDT S1283 as linked above me, that is an awesome cooler, it really keeps my Phenom in the lower numbers and is a very good price.Look at reviews on the net it is 1 of the best CPU coolers available at the moment, just make sure u have room to fit the thing as its BIG, I had to fiddle around to get mine fitting over cpu as ram in the way for proper bracket to work.
Artic Freezer 7 pro, i have the AM2 version and ive never seen my temps go over 41oC
I have the Arctic Freezer Pro 7, and im impressed. never goes above 60c(tested with prime95)It never gets above 50c when running Crysis Warhead/games.
Note: My e8400 is overclocked to 4.2ghz.[IMG]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/paulerxx/OCD.png[/IMG]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004%26Tpk=sunbeam%20coreGood cpu cooler for under $35
Freezer 7 Prois a very good cooler for the price. My CPU usually idles in the low-mid 20's and never goes above 50C.
Xigmatek S1283 easily.
The Xigmatek HDT S1283 as linked above me, that is an awesome cooler, it really keeps my Phenom in the lower numbers and is a very good price.Look at reviews on the net it is 1 of the best CPU coolers available at the moment, just make sure u have room to fit the thing as its BIG, I had to fiddle around to get mine fitting over cpu as ram in the way for proper bracket to work.
Artic Freezer 7 pro, i have the AM2 version and ive never seen my temps go over 41oC
I have the Arctic Freezer Pro 7, and im impressed. never goes above 60c(tested with prime95)It never gets above 50c when running Crysis Warhead/games.
Note: My e8400 is overclocked to 4.2ghz.[IMG]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/paulerxx/OCD.png[/IMG]
Should i restart my pc first then do the other thing?
I'm about to start my build, but there was something i was wonderingafter i install all my mobo drivers, its going to ask me if i want to restart. should i say ''no'' then install my graphics card drivers and then say yes?or should i restart and do the gpu drivers after its back on?ps: one other question, about my case fans. theres two plugs with each one. I'm guessing one connects to the psu, and the other connects to the mobo. but where on the mobo? it should be marked in the Manuel, right? Should i restart my pc first then do the other thing?
You can install all of them at once and then just ignore the prompts.this works
You can install all of them at once and then just ignore the prompts.
Do consoles have graphics cards that are compatible with pcs?
Do they? Also, is there some type of graphics program that I can download for free to enhance the graphics that my pc can out put? I'm looking for the cheapest way to enhance the graphics on this thing and I would prefer to spend little to no money on it.Do consoles have graphics cards that are compatible with pcs?
I severely doubt it. Though, I haven't looked on the inside of a games console recently, so I'm not 100% certain. Why did you want to know?
EDIT: What are your PC's specs? What sort of graphics are you wanting to attain? Chances are, you'll be looking at upgrading your hardware - software tweaks can only help so much, and buying a new GPU, for example, would help a hell of a lot more.Do consoles have graphics cards that are compatible with pcs?
[QUOTE=''skapunkclarence'']I severely doubt it. Though, I haven't looked on the inside of a games console recently, so I'm not 100% certain. Why did you want to know?[/QUOTE]Well I would mainly like to get some gamecube games on this pc that I've not played. I would really like the new version of RE that came out for gamecube along with a couple of other games and some dreamcast games as well like crazy taxi but I need better graphics to run those games.
No. Even though all modern consoles use GPU's that are heavily based on PC GPU's, they're still heavily modified to work with the rest of the console. Besides...they're soldered onto the motherboard. :P
Well what about downloading some type graphics enhancer off the internet?
[QUOTE=''odin2019'']Well what about downloading some type graphics enhancer off the internet?[/QUOTE]
I reiterate: What are your PC's specs at the moment? The most you can do in terms of software is tweak the settings for each game, or find ways to cool down your current GPU so you can overclock it.
[QUOTE=''odin2019'']Do they? Also, is there some type of graphics program that I can download for free to enhance the graphics that my pc can out put? I'm looking for the cheapest way to enhance the graphics on this thing and I would prefer to spend little to no money on it.[/QUOTE]
in the Xbox360 the GPU is based off ov ATI's 2900XT card and in the PS3 it is based of ov the 7800GTX (both of witch are outdated)
U will not be able to play console games on ur pc as this is illegal.
[QUOTE=''hofuldig''][QUOTE=''odin2019'']Do they? Also, is there some type of graphics program that I can download for free to enhance the graphics that my pc can out put? I'm looking for the cheapest way to enhance the graphics on this thing and I would prefer to spend little to no money on it.[/QUOTE]
in the Xbox360 the GPU is based off ov ATI's 2900XT card and in the PS3 it is based of ov the 7800GTX (both of witch are outdated)
U will not be able to play console games on ur pc as this is illegal. [/QUOTE]
Umm, just because something is illegal doesn't mean you can't do it. And you can't play 360 or PS3, or even Gamecube games on your PC because its not at all possible, not because its illegal. If you want to play Gamecube games, spend $20 and get a Gamecube.
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[QUOTE=''hofuldig''][QUOTE=''odin2019'']Do they? Also, is there some type of graphics program that I can download for free to enhance the graphics that my pc can out put? I'm looking for the cheapest way to enhance the graphics on this thing and I would prefer to spend little to no money on it.[/QUOTE]
in the Xbox360 the GPU is based off ov ATI's 2900XT card and in the PS3 it is based of ov the 7800GTX (both of witch are outdated)
U will not be able to play console games on ur pc as this is illegal. [/QUOTE]
The gpu in the xbox is base off of the 1k series from ATI, lol if it was base on the one you stated the 360 would have dx10.
their are dreamcast simulators and maybe gamecube too. but its illegal... But a lot of people do it if you really want to just youtube/google it.
Well I need a library for video games and I'm not gonna go around buying every old system out there to do it when it can be done on pc. Also, I not gonna go hunt down all those old games or try to get them off of ebay at an outrageous price. Also, I don't have to swap disc or switch between connecting different consoles when it can all be done on one. I like using my ps3 controller. I guess I'm gonna have to get a graphics card but thats all I'm gonna buy because today's games would require a new processor and **** that.
In that case, be careful who you talk to. :P
there are graphics enhancers out there, there called drivers. even though there game spefici you can see bif gains in FPS e.g. on Css driver from Nov 07 (from june 07) gave me around 20 FPS more.
xbox 360 = cut down radeon 2600 (somewhere between 2400 and 2600 and ps3 has something between a 7600gt and 7800gs
[QUOTE=''millerlight89''][QUOTE=''hofuldig''][QUOTE=''odin2019'']Do they? Also, is there some type of graphics program that I can download for free to enhance the graphics that my pc can out put? I'm looking for the cheapest way to enhance the graphics on this thing and I would prefer to spend little to no money on it.[/QUOTE]
in the Xbox360 the GPU is based off ov ATI's 2900XT card and in the PS3 it is based of ov the 7800GTX (both of witch are outdated)
U will not be able to play console games on ur pc as this is illegal. [/QUOTE]
The gpu in the xbox is base off of the 1k series from ATI, lol if it was base on the one you stated the 360 would have dx10.[/QUOTE]
no it is heavily baised on the 2900 Card. yeah it dosent have DX10 but thats why i say baised off ov.
[QUOTE=''imprezawrx500'']xbox 360 = cut down radeon 2600 (somewhere between 2400 and 2600 and ps3 has something between a 7600gt and 7800gs[/QUOTE]
it is not as weak as a 2600. its just a cut down version of the 2900. if it was as weak as the 2600 then it wouldent be able to play games like Farcry 2 or Halo 3 at the settings it dose play them at
This entire thread is hilarious.
[QUOTE=''imprezawrx500'']xbox 360 = cut down radeon 2600 (somewhere between 2400 and 2600 and ps3 has something between a 7600gt and 7800gs[/QUOTE]
Good god, what's with all the weird claims? The Playstation 3 has a graphics solution roughly based off G70 (7800 series), and the Xbox 360 uses a modified R580 chip that I believe has some tesselation abilities (like R600), but in most ways is similar to the X1900/X1800 series.
The Xbox 360 is the most limited console graphically between it and the PS3 because of the X1900 like chipset it has, and I remember back in 2005/2006 games that were made for both Pc and it, My old Geforce 6600 out did the 360 on textures,draw distances and effects. But yet a top end Pc cant run GTA4... lousy job porting.
I severely doubt it. Though, I haven't looked on the inside of a games console recently, so I'm not 100% certain. Why did you want to know?
EDIT: What are your PC's specs? What sort of graphics are you wanting to attain? Chances are, you'll be looking at upgrading your hardware - software tweaks can only help so much, and buying a new GPU, for example, would help a hell of a lot more.Do consoles have graphics cards that are compatible with pcs?
[QUOTE=''skapunkclarence'']I severely doubt it. Though, I haven't looked on the inside of a games console recently, so I'm not 100% certain. Why did you want to know?[/QUOTE]Well I would mainly like to get some gamecube games on this pc that I've not played. I would really like the new version of RE that came out for gamecube along with a couple of other games and some dreamcast games as well like crazy taxi but I need better graphics to run those games.
No. Even though all modern consoles use GPU's that are heavily based on PC GPU's, they're still heavily modified to work with the rest of the console. Besides...they're soldered onto the motherboard. :P
Well what about downloading some type graphics enhancer off the internet?
[QUOTE=''odin2019'']Well what about downloading some type graphics enhancer off the internet?[/QUOTE]
I reiterate: What are your PC's specs at the moment? The most you can do in terms of software is tweak the settings for each game, or find ways to cool down your current GPU so you can overclock it.
[QUOTE=''odin2019'']Do they? Also, is there some type of graphics program that I can download for free to enhance the graphics that my pc can out put? I'm looking for the cheapest way to enhance the graphics on this thing and I would prefer to spend little to no money on it.[/QUOTE]
in the Xbox360 the GPU is based off ov ATI's 2900XT card and in the PS3 it is based of ov the 7800GTX (both of witch are outdated)
U will not be able to play console games on ur pc as this is illegal.
[QUOTE=''hofuldig''][QUOTE=''odin2019'']Do they? Also, is there some type of graphics program that I can download for free to enhance the graphics that my pc can out put? I'm looking for the cheapest way to enhance the graphics on this thing and I would prefer to spend little to no money on it.[/QUOTE]
in the Xbox360 the GPU is based off ov ATI's 2900XT card and in the PS3 it is based of ov the 7800GTX (both of witch are outdated)
U will not be able to play console games on ur pc as this is illegal. [/QUOTE]
Umm, just because something is illegal doesn't mean you can't do it. And you can't play 360 or PS3, or even Gamecube games on your PC because its not at all possible, not because its illegal. If you want to play Gamecube games, spend $20 and get a Gamecube.
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[QUOTE=''hofuldig''][QUOTE=''odin2019'']Do they? Also, is there some type of graphics program that I can download for free to enhance the graphics that my pc can out put? I'm looking for the cheapest way to enhance the graphics on this thing and I would prefer to spend little to no money on it.[/QUOTE]
in the Xbox360 the GPU is based off ov ATI's 2900XT card and in the PS3 it is based of ov the 7800GTX (both of witch are outdated)
U will not be able to play console games on ur pc as this is illegal. [/QUOTE]
The gpu in the xbox is base off of the 1k series from ATI, lol if it was base on the one you stated the 360 would have dx10.
their are dreamcast simulators and maybe gamecube too. but its illegal... But a lot of people do it if you really want to just youtube/google it.
Well I need a library for video games and I'm not gonna go around buying every old system out there to do it when it can be done on pc. Also, I not gonna go hunt down all those old games or try to get them off of ebay at an outrageous price. Also, I don't have to swap disc or switch between connecting different consoles when it can all be done on one. I like using my ps3 controller. I guess I'm gonna have to get a graphics card but thats all I'm gonna buy because today's games would require a new processor and **** that.
In that case, be careful who you talk to. :P
there are graphics enhancers out there, there called drivers. even though there game spefici you can see bif gains in FPS e.g. on Css driver from Nov 07 (from june 07) gave me around 20 FPS more.
xbox 360 = cut down radeon 2600 (somewhere between 2400 and 2600 and ps3 has something between a 7600gt and 7800gs
[QUOTE=''millerlight89''][QUOTE=''hofuldig''][QUOTE=''odin2019'']Do they? Also, is there some type of graphics program that I can download for free to enhance the graphics that my pc can out put? I'm looking for the cheapest way to enhance the graphics on this thing and I would prefer to spend little to no money on it.[/QUOTE]
in the Xbox360 the GPU is based off ov ATI's 2900XT card and in the PS3 it is based of ov the 7800GTX (both of witch are outdated)
U will not be able to play console games on ur pc as this is illegal. [/QUOTE]
The gpu in the xbox is base off of the 1k series from ATI, lol if it was base on the one you stated the 360 would have dx10.[/QUOTE]
no it is heavily baised on the 2900 Card. yeah it dosent have DX10 but thats why i say baised off ov.
[QUOTE=''imprezawrx500'']xbox 360 = cut down radeon 2600 (somewhere between 2400 and 2600 and ps3 has something between a 7600gt and 7800gs[/QUOTE]
it is not as weak as a 2600. its just a cut down version of the 2900. if it was as weak as the 2600 then it wouldent be able to play games like Farcry 2 or Halo 3 at the settings it dose play them at
This entire thread is hilarious.
[QUOTE=''imprezawrx500'']xbox 360 = cut down radeon 2600 (somewhere between 2400 and 2600 and ps3 has something between a 7600gt and 7800gs[/QUOTE]
Good god, what's with all the weird claims? The Playstation 3 has a graphics solution roughly based off G70 (7800 series), and the Xbox 360 uses a modified R580 chip that I believe has some tesselation abilities (like R600), but in most ways is similar to the X1900/X1800 series.
The Xbox 360 is the most limited console graphically between it and the PS3 because of the X1900 like chipset it has, and I remember back in 2005/2006 games that were made for both Pc and it, My old Geforce 6600 out did the 360 on textures,draw distances and effects. But yet a top end Pc cant run GTA4... lousy job porting.
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