Friday, April 9, 2010

4870x2 or CF 4870

Wich should i decide on guys4870x2 or CF 4870
anyone?4870x2 or CF 4870
From what ive read the 4870x2 is the power of 2 4870's in 1 card and as CF never works 100% to 100% id say go for 4870x2
Yeah it Better Tough you say you already won Two 4850 ?! in the sig you sure you want the extrap 15-20fps i hope you can sell them nice price ;)

beside ur cpu will bottleneck them anyway not to diss amd but it a fact of Reality
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']Yeah it Better Tough you say you already won Two 4850 ?! in the sig you sure you want the extrap 15-20fps i hope you can sell them nice price ;) beside ur cpu will bottleneck them anyway not to diss amd but it a fact of Reality[/QUOTE]So what sort of clock speed are you looking at to not bottleneck the gpu? besides if a 3ghz intel doesnt bottleneck whats to say a 3.21ghz amd will?
[QUOTE=''KurganUK23''][QUOTE=''marcthpro'']Yeah it Better Tough you say you already won Two 4850 ?! in the sig you sure you want the extrap 15-20fps i hope you can sell them nice price ;) beside ur cpu will bottleneck them anyway not to diss amd but it a fact of Reality[/QUOTE]So what sort of clock speed are you looking at to not bottleneck the gpu? besides if a 3ghz intel doesnt bottleneck whats to say a 3.21ghz amd will? [/QUOTE] I presume your not bottlenecking your 4870x2 and your only clocking 90mhz faster than he isGranted the Athlon X2's sucked but the improvements they made and implemented into the new X4 phenom series is brilliant, especially the 9950 Black Edition which is the cpu were on about here And lets not forget AMD own ATI and work very closely with them to make sure there cpu's and gpu's work very well together
only a little a differance like 10-15fps it no big deal just told you it does compare to intel * and it why the sli would even be worst / crossfire then a 4870x2 based stuff here il show you it good to have the extra 15-20fps but anyway not necessary it just some test http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=770%26p=3
[img]http://www.legionhardware.com/Bench/CPU_Scaling_With_The_Radeon_HD_4870_X2/CoH.png[/img]

The difference is hardly anything at all, like 8-15fps clock for clock which when u think about it if you got a GPU capable of running over 60fps whichever you choose it makes no odds at all really as anything over that is great so id hardly call it bottlenecking, i think that term is thrown around far too much, if it was like 30-50fps then it would be a major issue but for a few fps its nothing at all and in the grand scheme of things nothing to worry about.When buying a cpu there are more factors to take into account - life span, price, performance - for a drop of a few fps you can have a cpu with more cores or just save nearly half the price --- if your on a budget AMD is still the way to go, if you got endless money Intel is your winner. besides my phenom at stock still makes an awesome gaming machine, even better when ive upgraded some things. I know prices are easier in US but in UK here is typical exampleAMD Athlon X2 6400+ @ 3.2ghzIntel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16ghz (near as damn it 3.2ghz) AMD is ?1.73p, Intel is ?63.21p, now tell me is it really worth over double price for 20fps max?And if you really want to get onto Intels stupid pricing what the hell is this for a price?? ?300 for a damn cpu chip can you seriously tell me thats worth so much money cos I cant see it tbhI was gonna get an E8400 for this new build but when I sat down and thought about it I was paying like ?0 more for a dual core that would give me roughly 10fps extra when i could save money, have more cores which helps with multi-tasking etc if i need to do something else while gaming.AMD still = best value for money with good performance
well reason being i wana up[grade is because im currently building a second comp. Im using my old msi board and when denebs come out im pruchasing it so i can use it on my Asus board and psosibly hit 4.0ghz, also im switching these two badboys into my second buidl becasue i honestly dnt wana seel them yet lol but that comp is going to be for scool light gaming when i bored of doing my college work and server protocols.
i know it would be over kill for my screen size but after i get the first 4870x2 ill prolly get another down the line when i get a 30in screen just for bragging right ;)But ont he side of that wich should i go for HisGigaByteAsusSaphireDiamond or Visiontek
[QUOTE=''Neo_revolution7'']i know it would be over kill for my screen size but after i get the first 4870x2 ill prolly get another down the line when i get a 30in screen just for bragging right ;)But ont he side of that wich should i go for HisGigaByteAsusSaphireDiamond or Visiontek [/QUOTE]Thats more personal choice and what you have the money for, Sapphire are apparantly the best but His are meant to be good too but if you have no trouble with Visiontek then why change?
Your gpu's are fine, you should be considering going for the Phenom II 940 when it releases next month.
i know my gpu's are fine but im transfering them to my new build wich henche being im upgrading my gamin rig with a 4870x2 and i was actualy between HIS visiontek and sapphire, and also im mostlily gona need 800 850w psu correct?
[QUOTE=''Neo_revolution7'']i know my gpu's are fine but im transfering them to my new build wich henche being im upgrading my gamin rig with a 4870x2 and i was actualy between HIS visiontek and sapphire, and also im mostlily gona need 800 850w psu correct?[/QUOTE]



Any of those brands are good.

550w should be the minimal recommended for a system with a 4870x2, 750w would be my pick, 900-1000w if in a future you plan to add a second one.
[QUOTE=''wklzip'']Your gpu's are fine, you should be considering going for the Phenom II 940 when it releases next month.[/QUOTE]Heard that for sure, that thing is a beast, im gonna get saving and pick 1 up prob Q2 of next year when price stabilises a bit more, hopefully its gonna have a black edition and can see a good overclock, 4ghz would be nice :P
[QUOTE=''Neo_revolution7'']i know my gpu's are fine but im transfering them to my new build wich henche being im upgrading my gamin rig with a 4870x2 and i was actualy between HIS visiontek and sapphire, and also im mostlily gona need 800 850w psu correct?[/QUOTE]Your corsair 750W would do fine if your only having 1, if you plan on 2 later down the road id look a bit more powerfull, 1000w still seems a bit high though but as its corsairs next psu up I suppose not much choice, hence why I choose tagan, love my new 800W Piperock (BZ series)
[QUOTE=''KurganUK23'']The difference is hardly anything at all, like 8-15fps clock for clock which when u think about it if you got a GPU capable of running over 60fps whichever you choose it makes no odds at all really as anything over that is great so id hardly call it bottlenecking, i think that term is thrown around far too much, if it was like 30-50fps then it would be a major issue but for a few fps its nothing at all and in the grand scheme of things nothing to worry about.When buying a cpu there are more factors to take into account - life span, price, performance - for a drop of a few fps you can have a cpu with more cores or just save nearly half the price --- if your on a budget AMD is still the way to go, if you got endless money Intel is your winner. besides my phenom at stock still makes an awesome gaming machine, even better when ive upgraded some things. I know prices are easier in US but in UK here is typical exampleAMD Athlon X2 6400+ @ 3.2ghzIntel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16ghz (near as damn it 3.2ghz) AMD is ?1.73p, Intel is ?63.21p, now tell me is it really worth over double price for 20fps max?And if you really want to get onto Intels stupid pricing what the hell is this for a price?? ?300 for a damn cpu chip can you seriously tell me thats worth so much money cos I cant see it tbhI was gonna get an E8400 for this new build but when I sat down and thought about it I was paying like ?0 more for a dual core that would give me roughly 10fps extra when i could save money, have more cores which helps with multi-tasking etc if i need to do something else while gaming.AMD still = best value for money with good performance [/QUOTE]A E8500 is way better then a X2 6400, even if you don't include overclocking. You can get a E5200 for $80 and that would be better then a X2 6400, they overclock to 3.5GHz+.And do you not remember a time when AMD had the best CPUs? Do you remember how much they cost? Intel today has better price/performance then AMD had a few years ago. They used to have $1000+ CPUs and they would today if they were better then Intel.
OP what is wrong with 4850s in crossfire?
[QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''KurganUK23'']The difference is hardly anything at all, like 8-15fps clock for clock which when u think about it if you got a GPU capable of running over 60fps whichever you choose it makes no odds at all really as anything over that is great so id hardly call it bottlenecking, i think that term is thrown around far too much, if it was like 30-50fps then it would be a major issue but for a few fps its nothing at all and in the grand scheme of things nothing to worry about.When buying a cpu there are more factors to take into account - life span, price, performance - for a drop of a few fps you can have a cpu with more cores or just save nearly half the price --- if your on a budget AMD is still the way to go, if you got endless money Intel is your winner. besides my phenom at stock still makes an awesome gaming machine, even better when ive upgraded some things. I know prices are easier in US but in UK here is typical exampleAMD Athlon X2 6400+ @ 3.2ghzIntel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16ghz (near as damn it 3.2ghz) AMD is ?1.73p, Intel is ?63.21p, now tell me is it really worth over double price for 20fps max?And if you really want to get onto Intels stupid pricing what the hell is this for a price?? ?300 for a damn cpu chip can you seriously tell me thats worth so much money cos I cant see it tbhI was gonna get an E8400 for this new build but when I sat down and thought about it I was paying like ?0 more for a dual core that would give me roughly 10fps extra when i could save money, have more cores which helps with multi-tasking etc if i need to do something else while gaming.AMD still = best value for money with good performance [/QUOTE]A E8500 is way better then a X2 6400, even if you don't include overclocking. You can get a E5200 for $80 and that would be better then a X2 6400, they overclock to 3.5GHz+.And do you not remember a time when AMD had the best CPUs? Do you remember how much they cost? Intel today has better price/performance then AMD had a few years ago. They used to have $1000+ CPUs and they would today if they were better then Intel.[/QUOTE]Im talking UK prices here, and still why pay over double for a few fps, every benchmark ive seen shows no more than 20fps difference between E8500 and X2 6400, and overclocking doesnt even comes into it as not a lot of people want to overclock, even Phenom 9950BE is cheaper than E8500 and still not that much behind unless you bring OC'in into account.All Intel are showing to me is there too lazy to get the most out of there chips so they bang them out at whatever clock then users get hold of them and clock like 1ghz or more extra out of them but yet Intel are still charging way way more.If you want to bring up AMD having better cpu's lets take a trip back a few years to the Athlon 64 domination era, them cpus totally trashed P4's and P D's and were still cheaper, they were priced similar to Celeron's, I know my old machine (in pieces at the moment) is an Athlon 64 3000+, bought and paid for out of my wages one month and to try and match it with an Intel machine would have cost me nearly ?00 more.Roll on Phenom 2, if rumers are right Intel are gonna have to drop there prices as there I7's are gonna get matched performance wise and price on AMD will be cheaper.As I said early the prices seem a lot closer in the US but here in UK AMD has the Price/Performance lead and has had it for years wether they have best chips or not at the time
Well i ahve a 750w so i should be good in that area im just glad i can use it because trust m i wasnt paning on doing cablemanagement for a while maybe by summer when i pick up a new psu and 4870x3 with a 30in monitor ;)

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